New all black Bomber vom Wolfshiem Breeding - Page 2

Talk about taking a pee in the swimming pool ...... if you want a real Bomber progeny take it from a female that has not been diluted or disturbed with show lines ....great work ethic on the females topside ...... got to the bottom side and __________ !

So what's the deal with the female? 

I myself,love the Arminius in the showlines,and in fact won't touch one that doesn't have it.
The amount of showline in there is not much. Everyone of my dogs that are from showline is Arminius back in fourt ,fifth generation.
My dogs are very sound in mind and body. Never any health issues, which to me, is a very relevant matter when it comes to the breed.
I also would like to be told, what the big no-no on this repeat breeding is.
If there are problems, it shouldn't be kept a secret, should it?

There's those that love the Showlines...and there's those that love the Working lines...There's even those that appreciate the two mixed together...

I'm just one that loves the Working lines and I don't like mine mixed together...

I no longer own the female I purchased from the first Enka x Bomber litter. So I wont make any public comments about her, other than my female had not fallen far from the tree, and had temperament issues which I'm happy to discuss in PM.

Troopscott, my guess is you are new to sport and working dogs and are still not sure what you are seeing yet, just based on your description of Enka.

Never mind.........

I PMd and asked you and you haven't replied. 

I just wanted to report back that I contacted M&M shepherds about Enka and her pups and this is what I was told.  Most were sold to pet homes and a few made their way to working dog homes.  One is titled, another is going to be getting his BH and SCH 1 in October (2 day trial) a third went to MHF27 who has said the dog had temperament issues (M&M said the mother did not) M&M did not sell her for temperament reasons and the previous owner to Parrish sold her because he is an older gentleman with health issues so I am not sure where or why the insinuation that she has temperament issues or health issues etc is being posted here. 

I even went to MFH27 website where this is what she has to say about her Bomber X Enka pup she sold  http://www.llenrock9.com/available.html
 
 
Sire: V Bomber von Wolfsheim SchH3, FH1, KKL1
Dam: Enka Beerbergshanze SchH1, AD
DOB: February 17, 2011
Pedigree

"Jordan is a pretty 15 month old West German import female from schutzhund titled, a1 hip rated parents. Jordan is looking for working/sport or active home, as this little girl wants to be active all day long. However, Jordan is not hectic or bouncing off the walls. She can settle in the house. She has excellent food and prey drive and endless desire to play fetch. She also loves to play tug. In bite work, her grips are calm. Jordan has a great temperament and good desire to please. She has been started in obedience and knows sit, down, stay and drop it in German. "

MFH27 while I appreciate you sending me a message and posting here your thoughts I have to question a couple of  things.  Your motive or your ethics.  Please let me know which is true and which is not.  Either you lied on your website when selling "Jordan" and you sold her to someone with known temperament issues or you are lying here and have an ulterior motive.  I would like to respect you as an owner and a breeder but when I see you post one thing here to discredit the current breeding based on the past breeding you had a pup out of and say there were temperament issues but yet when selling the same dog with the alleged temperament issues you said "Jordan has a great temperament and good desire to please" it makes it impossible for me to take you seriously.  I am sorry I just dont find your post credible.  In case anyone wants to see the website and it changes based off of this post I have a screenshot I would be more than happy to post as a photo.

I truly took the time to talk to all involved parties here.  When I searched and found your website I stumbled on the glowing review you had of your Bomber X Enka pup when selling her.  I also looked at the dogs you have Robby a SCH1 you have had since he was a pup (back in 2008) and you have managed to get a SCH1 on (congrats).  I hope you are able to continue on and get him a 3

In addition I just found this breeding today here on PDB http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/classifieds.viewad?adid=199127 which is clearly a working female from the 1st litter.  To many things about the bashing of this dogs temperament does not add up. 

I do want to thank you for making me research this further and making me even more happy with my choice of a bomber pup. 




 

Troopscott, you will learn with experience that there is much much more to what a German Shepherd should be than the "glowing" blurb on my website.  There are many things I intentionally left off.  In general, I try not to post negative things, including on my website, about other people's dogs.  I told you in PM the very important attributes that I look for in which this female was lacking.  Those were her temperament issues.  Issues I personally would not propagate.  She had great temperament for sport and active home; but that is the problem in the breed today.  Jordan was not sold because of the "glowing" description.  I did talk with the buyer who saw my ad on PDB.  The buyer met her in person and we both felt she fit the job for which she was being bought.  I told the buyer if she didn't like her, I would buy her back.  Last I heard, all was good.  That does not negate she had issues that I feel are unbecoming of what a German Shepherd should be.

I have no ulterior motives.   I know what I was told and observed in Enka, and I personally would not buy a pup out of her again.  I bought a pup and did my research after; and paid for it in a dog that I ultimately had to sell.

ah man, you guys are so bias agin show lines, heard it all before and thats why so many show line folks don't bother to post here anymore - or so i have been told.

grow up will ya's