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by susie on 23 July 2013 - 04:07
During the last decades Natan Pelztierfarm - Marko Cellerland - there might be more.
" Normally " males are shown up to 3 times in the GHK - mostly the winner title is earned at the 3. time, some at the 2. time.
Judges want and need to see progeny out of these males ( in the early years of the GS dogs were able to achieve the winner title at once ...)
I don´t know any written rule about " not more than 2 times VA1 " - I think it´s a kind of gentlemen agreement.
The judge of the GHK does have a lot of control about the breed, he is the one forming the future for the next generation - he will tell the owner of a VA1 dog, if he wants to see this dog in the next year or not.
" Normally " males are shown up to 3 times in the GHK - mostly the winner title is earned at the 3. time, some at the 2. time.
Judges want and need to see progeny out of these males ( in the early years of the GS dogs were able to achieve the winner title at once ...)
I don´t know any written rule about " not more than 2 times VA1 " - I think it´s a kind of gentlemen agreement.
The judge of the GHK does have a lot of control about the breed, he is the one forming the future for the next generation - he will tell the owner of a VA1 dog, if he wants to see this dog in the next year or not.
by 123lyn45 on 23 July 2013 - 06:07
Thanks Susie you have explained very well , there doesn't seem to be a VA female that has gone on twice, or is there....?
still would like to hear some opinions on the va's for 2013.....
still would like to hear some opinions on the va's for 2013.....
by 123lyn45 on 23 July 2013 - 21:07
I have received unquestionable data about dual Siegereens thanks Imran : "Ute Trienzbachtal" 1978-79; Tina Grossen Sand. Don't see it in current times....
Progeny Groups are looking very interesting.....
Progeny Groups are looking very interesting.....
by Dawulf on 24 July 2013 - 01:07
Thank you for explaining that, Susie. :)
by Gustav on 24 July 2013 - 08:07
The irony Susie is that Natan, Marko are two dogs if they were more prominent in Showlines as whole, the SL would be in better than minimum working shape....just a sidenote, back to who will win this year.
by susie on 24 July 2013 - 09:07
I still do own a male out of Mutz lines....
I only tried to answer a question, without any judgement about sense or nonsense of any ratings...
I only tried to answer a question, without any judgement about sense or nonsense of any ratings...
by 123lyn45 on 24 July 2013 - 19:07
Back to the thread guys.....what are your picks for VA ??????
by Sevinchaus on 05 August 2013 - 23:08
VA1 -Nino
VA2 -Quatro
VA3-Mentos
VA4-Sultan
VA5-Ustinov
VA6-Yankee
VA7-Omen
VA8-Etoo
VA9-Chacco
VA10-Labo
VA11-Hagadahls Figo
VA12-Enosh
VA13-Fulz
VA14-Wallaby
This is my guess for 2013 VA :)
VA2 -Quatro
VA3-Mentos
VA4-Sultan
VA5-Ustinov
VA6-Yankee
VA7-Omen
VA8-Etoo
VA9-Chacco
VA10-Labo
VA11-Hagadahls Figo
VA12-Enosh
VA13-Fulz
VA14-Wallaby
This is my guess for 2013 VA :)
by NigerDeltaMann on 06 August 2013 - 05:08
@sevinchaus, somebody u didn't place his dog in a better rating may pull-out a .38 semi automatic against you. Lol.(joke). But this is a big exam expo, and i just hope you rating don't influence any judges decision.
by Blitzen on 06 August 2013 - 09:08
Best guess - Va1 Sultan.
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