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by vonissk on 28 March 2013 - 00:03
Troopscott, I agree it's a fine way to run a puppy mill. I know a lady who does that and who has for many years. She co owns the bitches forever and pays the co owner so much per puppy. I think about 300. And that's exactly all she has ever done--she had exclusively white dogs but hell since they are so rare and worth so much she has gone to the darkest side with the dilutes being mixed in. I co own a couple of my girls and if I wanted out from under our relationship, all I have to do is give up the 1st and 3rd pick--that's how most of the people I know do it. I would never get into a deal where I had to do 3 litters--I bet they would want them all in a row too. And I wonder who pays for the AI if they do ship the semen?
by Bhaugh on 28 March 2013 - 01:03
I've seen it plenty of times. I might consider one litter with being able to keep a puppy but it wouldn't be worth it after that. The cost to raise a litter to place along with all the vetting and God forbid something happens to mom.....with all that money being spent, it would be easier to just buy the female outright. 3 litters is a bit selfish.
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by Blaineric on 28 March 2013 - 13:03
I've never heard of this being done with dogs (something similar with horses though). I personally wouldn't be able to deal with it, all costs aside I just don't think I would be able to let my dog be shipped off somewhere for three weeks to a place she barely knows with people she hasn't seen since she was a pup. I'd imagine it wouldn't be a very pleasant experience.
by Hundmutter on 28 March 2013 - 14:03
There are a number of people in the UK who have these kinds of
arrangements; with a KC 'Loan of Bitch' arrangement it is quite
easy to set up; but there are also some real abuses of the idea
perpetrated on the naive first-time breeder / owner of a bitch puppy
sold to them cheaply so they are ensnared by this kind of condition.
arrangements; with a KC 'Loan of Bitch' arrangement it is quite
easy to set up; but there are also some real abuses of the idea
perpetrated on the naive first-time breeder / owner of a bitch puppy
sold to them cheaply so they are ensnared by this kind of condition.
by vonissk on 28 March 2013 - 14:03
Hey Hund.........I know that through the AKC you can lease a bitch--probably about the same thing as the KC. I have no experience and have never even seen the app.
And Blain you are exactly right about shipping your girl here or there. I would never ever agree to anything like that. And none of my dogs would go for that. I have a girl here who is a serious one person dog. Well Bec took her over for the weekend to breed her. OK got 2 nice ties--she howled in her crate all night and I went and got her nexrt day. OK we had a show coming up and we needed 1 win to finish. Did that. Had an article to do for the paper , did that. I am sure the breeding took and then she lost the pups and resorbed--that may not be spelled right but you guys know what I am saying.......bottom line is she doesn't do well away from me and I think all of the factors combined just stressed her out..........JMO about things--bottom line is we aren't running a puppy mill--missing a breeding isn't the end of the world and I'm not going to stress any of my dogs just to make it so.......
And Blain you are exactly right about shipping your girl here or there. I would never ever agree to anything like that. And none of my dogs would go for that. I have a girl here who is a serious one person dog. Well Bec took her over for the weekend to breed her. OK got 2 nice ties--she howled in her crate all night and I went and got her nexrt day. OK we had a show coming up and we needed 1 win to finish. Did that. Had an article to do for the paper , did that. I am sure the breeding took and then she lost the pups and resorbed--that may not be spelled right but you guys know what I am saying.......bottom line is she doesn't do well away from me and I think all of the factors combined just stressed her out..........JMO about things--bottom line is we aren't running a puppy mill--missing a breeding isn't the end of the world and I'm not going to stress any of my dogs just to make it so.......
by dantes on 29 March 2013 - 12:03
There was a well known Rottweiler and Dobe kennel in the USA that did/does this with great success. Produces high quality all rounder family dogs.
by GSDguy08 on 29 March 2013 - 20:03
This breeder isn't in Texas is he?
by Nans gsd on 29 March 2013 - 21:03
Dantes: do share; can you share the name of the kennel; with all of the GSD health issues I was thinking about a rotti maybe?? Just a thought.. Thx Nan You can PM me if you want.
by Spooks on 30 March 2013 - 07:03
A few of the police forces in the UK do this and have done so for a while. One benefit from doing it for the police is that all equipment, food and veterinary care are paid for by them.
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