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by spook101 on 23 December 2006 - 16:12
Having a clear head allows a dog to transition through drives.
by realcold on 23 December 2006 - 18:12
Hey Spook You got it. It sure helps eh(canuck eh). A dog must be clear headed in order to change drives such as in the out in both ob and protection. It sure is easier training once you get it in the trainers head and the clearness starts there.
by spook101 on 23 December 2006 - 20:12
Your right Real, I'm my own dogs biggest problem. It's hard to remain calm when you screw up a routine. The dog picks up on it immediately if you're not calm and then they get stupid.
by realcold on 23 December 2006 - 20:12
Been there done that and unfortunately I know I will visit there again. Thats called training
by PaulG on 23 December 2006 - 20:12
Hi
by PaulG on 23 December 2006 - 21:12
GSDFAN I couldn't agree more. I'll add that for those dogs that come with over the top drive it may not be that they are not clear headed but instead so driven they find it hopelessly impossible to fully control themselves in certain circumstances. Some of Europe's most bred dogs and those today most influencing the breed can get so "wound up" they may look cloudy but that in fact is not the case.
by 1doggie2 on 23 December 2006 - 21:12
Some dogs are clear in the head to start with, and they end up with an owner that is explosive. Not a good combo. I use to go to a field that this guy trained at, I thought he was a nut case, and his dog was not to far behind him. When they worked we all had to "take cover". You knew it was the owner and not the dog.
Before all of you go nuts, and he should never have been allowed to take the field, I already was put in my place. "Who else was going to help this dog and try and keep him in check". The trainer did not like the owner one bit, and knew he had been thrown off 3 other fields, but he loved the breed. I learned to shut my mouth.
by spook101 on 23 December 2006 - 21:12
Paul, I agree and isn't the duty of the trainer to bring that over the top dog into control? To me the "over the top' dog is the one that POTENTIALLY will score better. To not harness that drive would set you up for failure.
by PaulG on 23 December 2006 - 21:12
Well said Spook. I feel they look the best working as well. They for sure are the only ones that should be bred for certain work. It is their ability to self load and explode that allows them no hesitation in reallife threatening circumstances.
by realcold on 23 December 2006 - 21:12
I agree with you both and must add that these self high loading dogs must be calmed first to the right behaviour and then allowed to load when correct. We worked four club dogs last Sat. and they had a blast and LOADED over the top because of a months rest and knowing their job. You can see the photos of them on our web site at www.thunderbayschutzhundclub.com The big male had a new page shot taken minutes after protection without having been put away. That is clear in the head
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