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by Abadonsdad on 03 March 2013 - 01:03

Hexe , as i said , i will pay the extortion fee ,to the AKC ,I do not Breed Dogs , I just want one puppy out of my AKC registered Female to Continue the lines of his Dad , If your looking back 4 years ago to find a flaw in my posts ooh Ra! way to go ,Agian i was i only asking a question , to insure safety of an animal that i love . sorry i didn't mean to care . she only had 1 pup , and although i miss spoke , that day ,thanks for pointing that out , i should have ask if anyone had experiance of pups coming more than an hour apart. but i was a scared, and my baby was having babies. so i just took her to the vet ,paid for a very expensive check up, ex-rays. to make sure there were no more in there as she only had 1. as i have expained i have the certs for both my dogs, and yes calling me ignorant , will classify you as an ass . its my opinion. so sorry if that was a friend of yours and ill try to ask others , questions from now on .it seems like the fiber of this website for some is to attack , before they know what where when why. but thanks , i will know better next time.. Again thank you Sitasmom ,Kitkat and macrowe , fo rthe advise , and yes Macrowe ,Showline ,The Male- On dads side 4 line out of Larus ,and on moms side 5 line out of Bax ,And Esco.
The Female 3 line out of Rikor Von Bad Boll ,and therfor 4 line out of Ursus von batu,on dads side. 4 line out of Ursus on the moms side. but of all the world class breeders i deal with ,i will try to do my homework.

by Abadonsdad on 03 March 2013 - 01:03

Sorry i asked !

by Abadonsdad on 03 March 2013 - 01:03

ok i went back ,Hexe , and looked at that original post... all i said was he was an awfull person for saying that ,Sitasmom ,said he should be reported. i said God should Bless and keep him ... And thatis still the cutest baby picture ever .. h ha but i might be bias

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 03 March 2013 - 02:03

Oops, looks like I misread the AKC rules, oh well, won't be the first time I was wrong.
And more important, probly won't be the last....

Markobytes

by Markobytes on 03 March 2013 - 02:03

Abadonsdad, my post was meant to be sincere and I gave you the correct answer to your question. After rereading my post I see that I did use the term ignorance, it was not meant to be offensive, it means lack of knowledge it does not mean ignorant. I apologize for my poor use of words. Your replies were way off base, an over-reaction and not appropriate for the situation,  As far as the bitch in my avatar, she was 5 months old and had just stuck her head in a bucket of water. Now she is seven years old, V rated SchH1 breed surveyed KKL1, born in the US to German and Austrian parents by a breeder that knows what they are doing. and she is a sable. 

by hexe on 03 March 2013 - 03:03

Look, dude, I'm not mad at you--just didn't think you should've jumped down Markobytes' throat this time, nor the other person's back then; granted, back then the poster didn't respond to your question, she just dissed you for not doing the homework, but Markobytes DID answer your question...they just added their two cents on the ethical and moral aspects of breeding your dog. Why did they think you might be just another jerk with two purebred dogs who had decided to have some puppies born? Because frankly, your post reads as if you are just that. Anyone with the money to do so can purchase an SV-registered, pink-papered dog from a European breeder--it's not some secret club that you need a special handshake before anyone will sell you a dog, and the European GSD is not a secret, either.  Hell, people with nothing more than a passing interest in GSDs know about the Czech and DDR working lines already...and there are TONS of brokers in the US and abroad who purchase imports solely for resale to people in the US who don't really give a rip about lines other than that they (a) think because it's imported, the dog is automatically superior to any dog born in the US, and (b) want a 'manstopper' 'personal protection' dog.  So do you see why nobody is impressed and automatically recognizes your vast experience and knowledge of the breed JUST because you tell them that you have an SV-registered, pink-papered male GSD? That fact alone does NOT convey or even suggest that you might know a bit more about the breed and bloodlines than the average bear; it used to suggest such, a long time ago, but not any longer. 

Re-read what you posted, and imagine YOU reading that as someone who didn't know anything about the person who posted it: you sound like a stereotypical 'backyard breeder' who points with pride to the fact that their dog is a 'purebreed', has a 'champion pedigree' and even has papers himself, and he's gorgeous. How many of the rescue dogs you've dealt with have come from just such situations, regardless of breed? 

I didn't go back to your first post to find 'a flaw' and play some sort of 'gotcha' game--I went back to your posts to see if I could gauge how much experience you had, and if you'd posted enough about your dogs in the past that others here would be familiar with them already.  I was actually surprised about your first post being with regard to a bitch in whelp...I didn't expect that.

No, Markobytes' isn't a friend of mine--don't know him/her from a ham sandwich, as a matter of fact. I'm defending their answer because it's the same type of answer that's usually given by those for whom the need for homes for rescue dogs trumps the need for any one individual to breed any given dog--and Markobytes didn't call you ignorant, the comment only applied IF you are ignorant of the fact that there's more to breeding good, sound, healthy & stable GSDs than registration papers. Otherwise, that description wouldn't be fitting.

My previous bitch and my current bitch, though not imports with SV-pink papers, are every bit as well-bred as your dogs, but that didn't justify breeding them just so I could have a puppy from either one--you got lucky when your female only had the single pup back in 2009...most of the time that does not happen, as I'm sure you know. You already know how hard it is to find good, solid forever homes for dogs, by virtue of your rescue work--yet you're eager to put yourself in the position of having to find such homes for puppies you yourself are bringing into this world, when your present female gives birth to as many as 12 pups?  If you're planning on keeping the entire litter yourself, for the rest of their natural lives, then I stand corrected, and I'll agree that you are one of the few people in the world who should get dispensation to breed whatever dog they have whenever they want to do so.   Otherwise, you shouldn't be so insulted by others challenging you as to whether you are experienced and educated enough to be breeding your dogs.

And for the record, I'm the only person who actually answered your question with the specifics as to what is necessary in for you to register the litter with the AKC, so you're welcome.

by Abadonsdad on 03 March 2013 - 03:03

Markobytes , OMG , you mean after look at one picture and reading one post from you i was wrong to think i know you , your dogs ,and your opinion of life and the studies of human nature and mankind. holy crap maybe i will refrain , from saying anything that might be misconstrude as Ignorant! god speed hope you did not take it too personal , just trying to make a point. at one time tonight I was actually run down for trying to help, rescue , Dogs! what!? have a good night and godspeed.

by 1020ma on 03 March 2013 - 03:03

You say your not ignorant, yet you keep calling it an "extortion fee" lol do you even know what extortion means

by Abadonsdad on 03 March 2013 - 03:03

the extortion fee is just humor ,yes i know what it means , but if you look at the situation , because, you have an import  , were going to charge you more. or you can't play our game.. man people go rent a sense of humor!

Extortion , the art of charging an excessive amount of money for somrthing... the act of overcharging any giving amount by a person or persons of authority...

by 1020ma on 03 March 2013 - 03:03

Extortion: the practice of obtaining something using force and/or threats. Not here to be a dictionary but you set yourself up to be "teased" a little.





 


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