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by BlackthornGSD on 21 February 2013 - 19:02
That's super news about getting it direct from a pharmacy--I'll have to get some more this year.
I used it on my pups around 4-5 weeks, about the time they first started going outside (and being exposed to coccidia)--especially if it was wet, muddy, or mucky out. I wouldn't treat before they go outside and are exposed, but I did treat before I saw any symptoms.
Then if there were any problems, I treated with it again at 8 weeks. With my most recent litter, last summer, I treated fenbendazole for 5 days at 8 weeks--as a general dewormer, to kill any coccidia, and any giardia--which was a big problem in Virginia last year (due to the odd weather). My mind still isn't made up on the fenbendazole (Safeguard/Panacur) treatment.
Christine
I used it on my pups around 4-5 weeks, about the time they first started going outside (and being exposed to coccidia)--especially if it was wet, muddy, or mucky out. I wouldn't treat before they go outside and are exposed, but I did treat before I saw any symptoms.
Then if there were any problems, I treated with it again at 8 weeks. With my most recent litter, last summer, I treated fenbendazole for 5 days at 8 weeks--as a general dewormer, to kill any coccidia, and any giardia--which was a big problem in Virginia last year (due to the odd weather). My mind still isn't made up on the fenbendazole (Safeguard/Panacur) treatment.
Christine
by kitkat3478 on 21 February 2013 - 22:02
Thanks again Christine.I am goong to treat at 4weeks for the first time.
I also use the fenben, sulfa, panacur mix. Too much stuff for the little guys
"If" it can be avoided. I like feeling confident my pups are healthy and parasite free when they reach their new homes.
And how sad for both puppy and buyer when their new pup comes down with coccidia and instead of enjoying your time togeather, you have to deal with diarreaha and a sick pup.
Sure hope it works. Sometimes less is better.
I also use the fenben, sulfa, panacur mix. Too much stuff for the little guys
"If" it can be avoided. I like feeling confident my pups are healthy and parasite free when they reach their new homes.
And how sad for both puppy and buyer when their new pup comes down with coccidia and instead of enjoying your time togeather, you have to deal with diarreaha and a sick pup.
Sure hope it works. Sometimes less is better.
by khlewis on 02 March 2013 - 05:03
I tried giving this (at the correct dosage) today to my 5 week old pups and 5 out of 6 started to throw up within minutes of taking it. Also, I got some on my fingernail and by the time I got to the sink (only minutes) it had eaten through my nail polish. I won't be using this again. I will stick with Albon as it seems to be easier on them and safer after this experience.
by kitkat3478 on 02 March 2013 - 16:03
Well I gave it to my 4 week old pups day before yesterday and I DID NOT have one problem with it.
No throw up, no diarreaha no ill effects at all. I also tasted it myself.
Didn't taste good, but it also did not make my pups foam at the mouth like the metro does.
That was the 28th, today is the 2nd. My pups are perfectly fine.
I am going to treat them again at 6 weeks and than at 8 weeks and probably send a dose home with each pup, "just in case".
I usually send my pups with a 5 day metro vial anyway, just for an "in case".
I do try to prepare my pups and owners for anything that might happen. I don't want it to become an issue if it doesn't have to.
No throw up, no diarreaha no ill effects at all. I also tasted it myself.
Didn't taste good, but it also did not make my pups foam at the mouth like the metro does.
That was the 28th, today is the 2nd. My pups are perfectly fine.
I am going to treat them again at 6 weeks and than at 8 weeks and probably send a dose home with each pup, "just in case".
I usually send my pups with a 5 day metro vial anyway, just for an "in case".
I do try to prepare my pups and owners for anything that might happen. I don't want it to become an issue if it doesn't have to.
by Barenfell on 03 March 2013 - 19:03
OK...I'm confused. This post started talking about Toltrazuril, and then I posted about Ponazuril (Marquis). Kitkat3487 and Khlewis could you clarify...are you both talking about the same drug and same potency in your posts??? Your results are startling opposite, which makes me think two different drugs...or someone is using an incorrect potency??? Hmmm...another thought...I wonder if either of these drugs are on the MDR1 list, which would mean a genetic intolerance to a particular drug.
by kitkat3478 on 03 March 2013 - 20:03
Barenfell- I started the thread asking about Toltrazuril. THAT is what I used.
And I used it in the dosage Blackthorne recommended, which is the same dosage I found on a couple other sites.
I used to the exact ml per lb dosage. I had no sick pups.
I do not know nothing about the marquis, or what khlewis used. I do not know yet if it is going to work or not.
We will find out in the next upcoming weeks.
And I used it in the dosage Blackthorne recommended, which is the same dosage I found on a couple other sites.
I used to the exact ml per lb dosage. I had no sick pups.
I do not know nothing about the marquis, or what khlewis used. I do not know yet if it is going to work or not.
We will find out in the next upcoming weeks.
by dbeden01 on 04 March 2013 - 00:03
Toltrazuril (Baycox) is NOT an FDA approved product in the USA and is therefore illegal for a veterinarians to prescribe (without special import consent). Ponazuril on the other hand is FDA approved (i.e. Marquis in horses) and can therefore be legally used “off label” i.e. in a different species, different dosage etc. than the approved product, if it’s prescribed by a vet. So … if you use Baycox, the responsibility for side effects is all yours.
On another note, please never follow recommendations listing a “ml/kg or ml per animal” dosage if the drug concentration is not also specified; your vet should be able to give you advice.
Daniela
On another note, please never follow recommendations listing a “ml/kg or ml per animal” dosage if the drug concentration is not also specified; your vet should be able to give you advice.
Daniela
by khlewis on 04 March 2013 - 01:03
I was using Toltrazuril (Baycox) and used a dosage of 0.1ml/1lb, weighed my pups just before dosing so that it would be accurate for each pup.
by dbeden01 on 04 March 2013 - 01:03
Baycox comes both in a 5% and 2.5% oral solution; therefore a dosage in ml/lb can only be accurate if the drug concentration (50mg/ml vs, 25mg/ml) is also known / listed.
Daniela
Daniela
by khlewis on 04 March 2013 - 01:03
Mine is a concentration of 50mg/ml
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