Before and After pics on Raw Food - Page 2

Ramage, I remember those pictures and the puppy was gorgeous. I think the thread was called Raw fed vs kibble fed pups or something like that. I posted pics as well.

Thanks!! What the pics showed was the alarming growth rate of puppies fed kibble. The puppies were developing 2x as fast on kibble. 

The biggest benefit might be her teeth, and therefore her cardiovascular health. She tends to get plaque on kibble, whereas a few weeks on all raw w/some good rmb's clears it right up. She was mostly raw fed her entire life and minimally vaccinated, so she probably won't have that major detox that so many dogs have where you get that WOW difference. The differences in her will be more subtle, I would guess. She has more coat on raw, though. That might be one of the only obvious things, to me anyway. If Ileft on kibble long enough, you might see more signs, but having only eaten it exclusively for 20% of her life, I think it'll be some time before she looks like she could use improvement to the average observer. JMO. 

RE: water. Not only is there salt in kibble and it's moisture-devoid, protein also takes the most water to digest, so grain-free kibbles and other high protein kibbles (though ND isn't too high) will always tend to make them thirstier. This is where the myth comes from that high protein is bad for kidneys and causes renal failure. Not true- it simply REQUIRES a lot of water/hydration to process without a lot of tax on the kidneys. Since kidney issues are one of the most common in aging dogs and she's middle-aged, I'd go for the raw. 

She's a smaller dog, easy keeper, and doesn't require a lot of money to feed raw to. She's also not picky and has zero food issues. I'd make the switch, personally. Start simple. Honest Kitchen and some leg quarters, toss in some organ meat every couple days and get creative as you feel more confident. 

Yep, I am for raw for her also.  Nan

I found that thread....here it is...http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=578251-raw-fed-pups-vs-kibble-fed-pups-pictures

Every dog is different............some do much better on raw, other don't do well at all.

Yes, it is not cheap to feed raw, originally I thought it would be cheaper than a premium bag of dog food, NOT.  I also am in the city and do not have hunters for venison or even very good butcher shops;  the stores are just so, so.  So for my guys I figure about $100.00 per dog per month to feed raw and that is if no one needs anything special to eat.  That would add to this cost.  Ugh is right, cannot seem to get that price down either, have shopped and shopped but seems it ends about the same.  OH well, the end result is what I am looking for;  better nutrition, better muscle development, better longevity, better immune systems overall.  That to me is worth everything I spend.  Great days everyone,  Nan

PS:  Definitely better teeth.  Even though I just had to have a couple teeth extracted from my near 7 year old male??  Think he just has his mothers bad teeth.  Hope not but will be watching closely in the future for anything else. 

That makes sense putting water in with kibble. I hadn't thought of it that way. Jen, that could explain why Chey, after switching to grain-free, started drinking tons more water too, and could also explain the runny poop without the probiotic. Duhr, I'm feeling a little dumb now that I never put that together. :P

I HAVE noticed her teeth/breath suffering a bit... after about 3-4 days without a bone. I do think raw food would also help in that department.

That will be rough though, I use her kibble during training - thats how she gets her meals (and she isn't happy about it, LOL). What do you raw-feeders use in training then? I know there are some raw feeders in our training club, I'll have to catch up with them this weekend and pick some more brains!

Beetree - thank you for finding that thread... I have troubles with the forum search on here sometimes. At least someone can get it to work!

Myret - thank you for the links... wow, huge difference in the dogs before/after!!

Looking back on the Raw vs Kibble puppy thread, I do remember that going on. I actually posted in there once, but had completely forgotten about it. Ramage, that Corgi was beautiful! Bright-eyes, shiny coat, healthy and happy-looking, espescially compared to it's pot-bellied sibling. I do think though, that it is really easier to tell the nicer coats on a  full or mostly black dog, rather than a multi-colored one espescially in a photo. It would be interesting to take two fully black siblings, raise one on raw, the other on kibble, and see what the differences are throughout their maturity.