Working lines - Page 2

We have four bi-colors and one sable that are working lines. I had never seen the bi-color described as show line before. I have seen some true showline dogs that are beautiful. We just leaned toward working when we got our first. My sister has a half sister to him which we liked. It's all our firsts fault, he hooked us.

Animules, I will try to remember the name of the dog, or look around to see where I found it...It was infact a SHOWLINE GSD, that was bi-color. I'll be on later when I find out what the dogs name was...past tence, this dogs is very much passed...

FOUND IT! Hussan vom Haus Kilmark...good luck finding that dog, considering the dog died in the early 50's...but alas, its not a currant dog, but Animules asked a question, and here's the research to answer that question.

I have seen the very periodic bi-color showline, just had never heard anybody generalize bi-color as show instead of working line. One of the nicest showline bi-color's I have seen is the 1946 VA1 Bundes Sieger, VA Volker vom Sonnenstein. Check him out on the data base.

Interesting how discussing the color of a GSD captures so much attention. Bluesky----I was not pointing out anyone but at least your doing your homework before breeding. My point on pointing out the different colors is my opinion so much people breed and want to buy black and reds. I suggested that that this might keep alot of people away from working lines as many of them are not black and reds. I know and have seen many excellent working black and reds although usually they are not as rich colored as some show lines. You will be totally missing my point if you start pointing out dogs such as a sable who wins a show. Always exceptions to everything. Several of you got the ideal, doggie racism!

Okay DR, now your point comes across LOUD and CLEAR! Myself, I started 9 months ago searching for the next "RIN TIN TIN", you know, the heroic dog that runs in saves that day...My IDEAL was a Blk and Tan...for all I knew 9 months ago, Black and Tan was the ONLY GSD color, for a purebred...America's has us brainwashed so you hear "German Shepherd Dog" **MOST** of us Newbies imagine a Black and Tan, or a Red and Tan, because Black and Tans were the ones portraide to the public as the HERO dogs...They never showed the Sables, Bi colors, Blacks, as anything other then Wolves or Wolf Hybrids (White Fang, to name a movie) They never showed a Red sable running in to save the child from the burning building...Until about 8 months ago, my view of the GSD world was simple...Black and Tan...all same lines, no Working West or East, No American, No Show lines...because thats what I had let American television brainwash me into...Okay, well, I'm rambeling, but EXCELLENT point DR, Krista blueskyekennels@msn.com

Exactly Bluesky! About twenty years ago I bought my first GSD based on I thought it had the "best markings" as most people do. Luckily for me it was from a person who trained police K9's and I trained with this person for years. My pup turned into a superb working dog(bitch) from DDR lines. Lesson learned for me--- never make color or markings the reason to breed or buy a pup. They are important but IMO should not be the main or major concern.

The original Rin Tin Tin was a sable as were most of those that followed. http://www.rintintin.com/pedigree.htm

Klatolkin Good Point. Interesting in that the movie people wanted more lighter colors (gray/silver) to show up better on television. The structure differences between now and then show up too. Apparently the orginal was a very athletic dog. ( I am not much of a TV person so have not seen any of his shows).