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by Stumpywop on 03 June 2012 - 03:06
The OP stated that it wasn't a dweliberate mating, although also said they hadn't bothered to contact the vet yet either.
You say you'd pay a price that is reflected in the work involved. The OP stated in their reply that the would keep one and "give the rest away". So clearly no concern, consideration or thought for any effort or work to be put into the litter (assuing there is one of course). Nor does the OP beleive in SchH titles. However, the OP didn't mention any other type of titles and i don't think anyone else has either. Makes me wonder whether the OP considers any type of training etc to guage their dogs.
I haven't bothered asking whether the OP has a mentor or is in contact with any experienced and reputable breeders. Of course with so little thought going into the welfare of the potential pups or the bitch, from the answers already given in response to my very basic questions I can only hope any potential pups go to homes such as yours, mine or other members who care about the breed and know how to raise and train a GSD (particularly those with unknown temperaments because of the young age of the parents).
I do hope sincerely that should there be a litter from this mating (where the OP states they found the dogs "tied up" - their words, not mine) that all the pups are healthy, that they ALL find good homes and that both parent dogs are spayed/neutered.
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by Red Sable on 03 June 2012 - 12:06
I've come full circle on all of this. In the beginning I was like the OP. I grew up getting dogs for free or for very little. I've had some great dogs.
Then I bought in to the elitist crowds way of thinking concerning all the 'good' breeders way of breeding. Title, health certify etc. In that crowd, one pays thousands for a puppy in most cases.
A crap shoot, only to find out that their pup has horrible conformation , or drives over the top, and very little in common with the GSD's they grew up with which IMO were closer to the Standard. Worse yet, their 2 grand pup has hip displaysia despite all the hoopla, and the breeder doesn't stand behind his guarantee anyway.
There are good breeders out there that actually test for all that can go wrong, and stand behind their pups, but they are few and far between. Many breeders are in it for the money, and have no problem selling their product with lots of fancy promises, until that is, something goes wrong, then the truth comes out.
I've met so many hypocritcal self proclaimed 'good' breeders.
Paying big bucks for a dog does not insure the buyer will keep it forever, especially if they can not even handle it, or if it has health issues, and we all know expensive pups do not insure healthy stable pups. The throw away mentality of mankind will not be solved by overcharging for a pup that is not worth it, that is for sure.
So, now I'm back to where I was. If I'm going to roll the dice on a dog, I'll find one that I can afford to lose on. If I like the parents, I'll take a chance. No more spending a fortune on an animal that lives maybe 15 years. That is just nuts IMO. Many of my neighbours have been looking at me like I'm nuts for the last couple decades, and I've decided they are right.
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by Stumpywop on 03 June 2012 - 14:06
So I do see where you're coming from. However, there are so many GSDs being PTS on a daily basis that have no issues or problems that for someone to say they're just going to give the pups away and it was an accidental mating just doesn't wash with me. There needs to be some sort of testing or limits for pups when a breeder sends them off to their new home. As the potential litter hasn't yet been formally confirmed and the basis of so many dogs losing their lives daily through no fault of their own, I feel the OP is irresponsible at best to just wait and see what happens.
At the very least, she can prevent the litter if she really didn't intend to breed her dogs. What she's saying just doesn't fit with what she's doing!
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