who breeds the hardest dog - Page 2

I'm not saying I'm a complusen trainer when I say take corrections like a champ. For example he has a GSD that to me is amazing he hits hard corrections don't phase him and he is so close and loyal to his handler. We used mostly pure postive training with him works amazingl. but he has that edge and to me personally I like that.

Ronin, outstanding post and well put.

Lmao @ workingdogz.... when you first get the dog and pull him out of his crate "come down on him hard right away" and let him know whi is boss :)

don has recently received his pup from jinipo. i am sure he is high on his pup.i also have a year old male from jinipo and i can't say he is hard or not at this point.he is civil but how hard he is will have to wait until he is older.

vomeisenhaus:

EXACTLY!

make sure you let that dog know just
WHO OWNS HIM! 

I think Ronin summed it up the best,
perhaps the OP meant a dog that is
resilient from or forgiving of a newbies
poorly timed or undeserved corrections
etc.

OP, once you have had your own dog
do a beautiful (and very serious I might add)
hold and bark on you for a poorly timed
or undeserved correction (mea cupla),
you will understand how
wonderful it is to have a level headed
dog that wants to please his handler.

Always be careful what you ask for.
Those 'hard' dogs are not for the
novice or ego driven.

My male Brutus z kociciho dvora 6 yrs old is a Xant son. You can't get any harder than this dog. If anyone would like to see him in person you are more than welcome to come visit and try him out. I did get a pup from Petr (Jiris son). All is good so far with the pup. Barbara Andersen from grandcanyonk9 has a very good litter coming up also. I have reserved pick female from Dyk x Cheyenne. These will be very high caliber police type dogs. Donald Harris 540-717-0119 Www.teufelhundengermanshepherds.com

KT484: Are you refering to Leo (Von Haus Royal) ? Don't forget we purchased from the same kennel, but you have to look at the parents, I was forewarned that I was going to have my hands full with this PITA dog, his dad was the same one and his mom was headstrong/confident. I'm a firm believer of the pet resembles the owner thing, and you tend to be a bit scattered at times (you focus on too many variables and points of interest).
We'll try to set up some stuff for March 3rd, I'll get the car and bring Leo up.

As usual my good friend Sable59 hit the nail on the head when he said ( how hard) he will be. Every one judges hardness by different degrees of hardness. I also fully agree with Ronin second paragraph. As hardness in only displayed by action. If we judge hardness by the degree of fight a dog has while he can still win, it is a lower standard than seeing the degree of fight a dog will demonstrate, when he has no realistic way of winning.

Hardness has nothing to do with size, strenghth, Hardness has everything to do with heart. Some people judge a dog by how hard he fights a decoy, or how hard he will fight in a battle while he is winning.

On the other end, the top end, a dogs hardness can only be judged in his dying. How did he die? Was he giving it all he had to win when he drew his last breath? Most people including me don't know. We never get put in that position. But in reality a extreme hard dog in my opinion is one that will die of exhaustion fighting the dead carcus of a 220# enemy that has broken his back and both back legs 3 days earlier.

You and I both know they don't exist. There are some dogs that have a high degree of hardness but because a person has a high degree of hardness in some of his dogs don't mean they all will. If they did they would have to put guards out to keep them.

Dogs only need enough hardness to accomplish the task at hand. That degree can only be judged by you. And that is not governed by location. And again Ronin is right usually they will be the easiest dogs to be around.
Hank

RS - My comment was directed at the topic of this thread. This seems to come up once a month.

I will say that I agree with wrestleman. There is a difference between aggressive & hardness. I think everyone has their own definition of "hard dog". Many claim to have and see hard dogs everyday while others say they are not so easy to find.

Nice posts by Ronin & Hank