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by Silbersee on 11 March 2011 - 02:03
YogieBear,
the SV's DNA test can not be done here, unless you get the SV breed book office's permission in writing along with proper instructions (I contemplated doing it a few years ago). What it entails is that blood is drawn from your dog i na vial to their specifications (for storage), the vet has to attest to its authenticity and it will then have to be mailed back to the SV in Germany by your vet (not by you). Sending a blood sample overseas also requires a special permit from German customs. So, I would advise you to forget about that. Besides, you will only need it if your dog (or its offspring) is used for breeding in Germany. If a breeder in Germany would want to use your dog, DNA from your dog's parents would have to be collected on top of it. Steve is talking about the regulations in Europe. They do not apply to the dogs in the U.S.
I do the SV's required DNA because I have German friends who sometimes co-own or own one of my dogs or lease a female for breeding, plus all my dogs usually get titled and breed surveyed overseas.
BTW, my turnaround time in Germany between getting the x-rays done and for the SV to receive the ratings from the evaluators and requesting the pedigree from me was 9 days!!!
The professors are internationally known experts. The OFA radiologists know both of them. Prof. Brass has been in official retirement since the late 80s but Prof. Bernd Tellhelm is renowned. As a matter of fact, I want to say that any decent teaching veterinary radiologist knows of him and his numerous lectures and publications. Just google "Bernd Tellhelm".
Here is an example: www.iewg-vet.org/archive/2000/iewg2000.htm
the SV's DNA test can not be done here, unless you get the SV breed book office's permission in writing along with proper instructions (I contemplated doing it a few years ago). What it entails is that blood is drawn from your dog i na vial to their specifications (for storage), the vet has to attest to its authenticity and it will then have to be mailed back to the SV in Germany by your vet (not by you). Sending a blood sample overseas also requires a special permit from German customs. So, I would advise you to forget about that. Besides, you will only need it if your dog (or its offspring) is used for breeding in Germany. If a breeder in Germany would want to use your dog, DNA from your dog's parents would have to be collected on top of it. Steve is talking about the regulations in Europe. They do not apply to the dogs in the U.S.
I do the SV's required DNA because I have German friends who sometimes co-own or own one of my dogs or lease a female for breeding, plus all my dogs usually get titled and breed surveyed overseas.
BTW, my turnaround time in Germany between getting the x-rays done and for the SV to receive the ratings from the evaluators and requesting the pedigree from me was 9 days!!!
The professors are internationally known experts. The OFA radiologists know both of them. Prof. Brass has been in official retirement since the late 80s but Prof. Bernd Tellhelm is renowned. As a matter of fact, I want to say that any decent teaching veterinary radiologist knows of him and his numerous lectures and publications. Just google "Bernd Tellhelm".
Here is an example: www.iewg-vet.org/archive/2000/iewg2000.htm
by steve1 on 11 March 2011 - 06:03
Yogie
Sibersee is correct, Without a DNA you cannot do nothing with your dog if you want to breed and register the Pups correctly and for a Keuring it is a must over here.
What i am going to say now does not have much to do with Hips and Elbows in one way but it all ties together if you want to compete and Breed from your Dog this applies to a Puppy purchased in Germany and is worked and reared in Belgium
My near 12 month old Pup Gina was born in Germany. So i had to send to the VHD to get a certificate so i can register her with K.M.S.H in Belgium. IF i did not then i cannot get any work books for the dog
This is called Anerkennung fur das Ausland the reason is
The Club Authorized by the leading German Organization, the Verband fur Deutsche Hundewesen, to keep the studbook of this breed, is true and recognized by us
So i filled in a form and sent this with the original pedigree to the VDH in Germany, It has just come back yesterday . The form they have attached to the Pedigree,
Today i fill out another form get a duplicate of the Pedigree and form attached and send it off to the Belgian Body K.M.S.H. In time they will contact me and then send out a Guy to my home to check Gina the Original Pedigree and her Tattoo or Chip number.
Once this Guy has been i can then apply for her work books, A lot of work and it is to be paid for around 200 dollars USA.
So over here you cannot officially breed or work a dog if you do not go through these systems.
and for me it has to be done correctly or not at all. It may seem a bit quick bothering at her age but in 2 to 3 months time she will well be capable of taking her BH if i wanted to. She is going on that well in her training
Steve1
Sibersee is correct, Without a DNA you cannot do nothing with your dog if you want to breed and register the Pups correctly and for a Keuring it is a must over here.
What i am going to say now does not have much to do with Hips and Elbows in one way but it all ties together if you want to compete and Breed from your Dog this applies to a Puppy purchased in Germany and is worked and reared in Belgium
My near 12 month old Pup Gina was born in Germany. So i had to send to the VHD to get a certificate so i can register her with K.M.S.H in Belgium. IF i did not then i cannot get any work books for the dog
This is called Anerkennung fur das Ausland the reason is
The Club Authorized by the leading German Organization, the Verband fur Deutsche Hundewesen, to keep the studbook of this breed, is true and recognized by us
So i filled in a form and sent this with the original pedigree to the VDH in Germany, It has just come back yesterday . The form they have attached to the Pedigree,
Today i fill out another form get a duplicate of the Pedigree and form attached and send it off to the Belgian Body K.M.S.H. In time they will contact me and then send out a Guy to my home to check Gina the Original Pedigree and her Tattoo or Chip number.
Once this Guy has been i can then apply for her work books, A lot of work and it is to be paid for around 200 dollars USA.
So over here you cannot officially breed or work a dog if you do not go through these systems.
and for me it has to be done correctly or not at all. It may seem a bit quick bothering at her age but in 2 to 3 months time she will well be capable of taking her BH if i wanted to. She is going on that well in her training
Steve1
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