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by Abby Normal on 08 September 2011 - 17:09
This was what I was looking for. You may have found it surfing anyway. Here is a link to someone who has video'd their dog in treatment with stem cells for DM.
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/health-issues/157682-success-stem-cell-treatment-degenerative-myelopathy.html
Hope it's useful, don't know how conclusive the video is, and all dogs are different anyhow.
I know what it's like, I've lost a dog to DM in the past, and I would have done anything, and I mean anything to fix it. Maybe there is some hope here, and maybe at least something to try in the future.
There is some controversy around Richard Vuillet, but I guess none of these people ever had a dog with DM. There comes a time when you have nothing to lose and any 'gain' would be worth more than gold.
Good luck with your dog, do let us know if you ever take it any further.
Best
Abby
by starrchar on 09 September 2011 - 01:09
by LynOD on 09 September 2011 - 16:09
by LynOD on 09 September 2011 - 16:09
by Abby Normal on 10 September 2011 - 20:09
From much of what I have read, several treatments (up to 3 are often needed) which is why they suggest banking the cells. I hope you get a good result with the second treatment. Please let us know.
Have asked my own vet in the UK about it, I like to keep him on his toes.
by LynOD on 12 September 2011 - 14:09
by Alamance on 14 September 2011 - 20:09
Gold beads were zeeee way to go. I know a GSD whose owners had money to burn and they did it. Did not work.
A vet tech said she had read an article that said the stem cells could be involved in different ways in helping cancer.
Best wishes.
by Abby Normal on 15 September 2011 - 22:09
This is what he said, I am not saying it is right, but it is what he has been told.
The cells that they collect for treatment of joint disease are taken from fat do not act in the way we associate with conventional stem cell therapy, ie they do not take on the characteristics of the damaged area of the body and replicate and repair the damage. They are stem cells, but from fat, and in the case of arthritis they are injected into the joint and they do provide temporary relief by migrating into the joint and providing a cushion, thus for some dogs benefit is seen. However, it is said that the effect lasts only from 3 - 6 months approx when it does provide a benefit at all.
No-one yet knows whether the cells from bone marrow to treat CDRM will be beneficial, as there has been no significant feedback on the results. I believe that the vet that is testing this out is not going the conventional route of 'years of testing', but is simply trying it to see if it works.
The thinking seems to be that at the moment the high cost outweighs the (limited if any) temporary benefit in the treatment of DJD, but there is a strong belief that stem cell therapy in the next few years will move on apace and will be developed successfully to treat many of these diseases, seems we are not quite there yet though.
Hope this helps
Abby
by charity on 15 September 2011 - 23:09
What is involved with the gold beads?
by starrchar on 20 September 2011 - 17:09
Someone I know has a dog with DM and her vet put her in touch with a lab in Indiana that does stem cell therapy for dogs, cats, horses and rabbits. http://www.renovocyte.com/?page=veterinary I am going to give it a try as I really have nothing to lose but money. My vet will do the biopsy and it will be sent to the lab to be processed. After 2 weeks of processing the cells, they will be overnighted to my vet and she will administer them. It may only slow the progression of the DM or it may stop the progression for a time and there is a possibly of some improvement, but not a cure. I am still hopeful....
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