Suggestions, puppy doesn't eat? - Page 2

Thanks for your thoughts. I bought an assortment of canned stuff to try tomorrow. I'll be cooking her breakfast in the am to be sure she has something and I'll safeguard her too just to be sure. What she was eating is not available here.

Don't want to come across wrong, but your asking for all our help but you're keeping pieces of the puzzle out/back from us........... Then tell us what he was eating then we across this vast PDB can say yeah or nay if its here. Maybe there is an American, Uk, European version???

I just imported an adult male that would only eat raw meat and boiled potatos. I continued to feed him this until I knew he had settled in and comfortable. Once he was eating well and somewhat relaxed, I started adding a bit of kibble, now he's doing OK on a mix of Orijen and TOTW....

With a young puppy - I'd freak!
Good luck.

I'm amazed that not everyone took it for granted that Dog 1 would have fed the original food if it was available to him, (lol). Anyway.....barring a medical problem, I hope one of your choices work, Randy.

Xira--I've read your advice so many times. Let the pup get to the point of extreme hunger, and basically, force it to eat something it hates. There's so much to choose from??? With a little effort you might have found something your pup actually liked. I just don't understand this philosophy.  Well, actually, I do. I just don't subscribe to it.

Of course the food is available here, you got the dog here didn't you?  Didn't it come by plane?  Why did you not get food shipped with the dog?  Call the breeder and have some sent over, it's not that big a deal and if it will get the puppy to eat, it's worth the expense.

You come here looking for advice and when people give it, you get defensive and discard it like you have tried "everything humanly possible" and nothing works.  Sounds to me like the puppy needs a better home.

I believe the pup actually flew into the US with Dog1, and I'm quite confident that the dog has a more than adequate home now.  Given that Dog1 has an extensive amount of experience in the care of newly imported dogs, from newly-weaned pups through seasoned adults, I suspect that his inquiry was more out of an openness to the possibility of learning a new trick as opposed to some dire need for advice on his part.   

As to why the food isn't available here, or why he didn't have some shipped back with the pup, perhaps it's not a commercially-made food.  Maybe she was weaned on mutton and oatmeal, lovingly prepared for the pups daily by the breeder.  You never know.

Dog1, I'm Team Cooked Animal Flesh, be it from beast or fowl.  Might want to cook up some rice or oatmeal as well, though, and mix it with the meat or poultry so she gets some carbohydrate as well as a protein. 

Then since he came over with the puppy, and since he is so experienced with importing dogs, why wouldn't he ask for the "super secret dog food" recipe?  Want the dog to eat?  Pack the freakin' mutton in dry ice and overnight it here.  I'm guessing there was no "mutton and oatmeal" recipe on the menu. 

Hi Randy!
Congrats on your new puppy!
Randy.....most of the puppies that come in from Germany will have either if not both Coccidia and Giardia.
The small amount of stress (flying over here) seems to trigger it.
Every puppy that we have had imported (if they showed signs of not wanting to eat) after a couple of days...always tested positive for either of the parasites, and a couple had both.
My opinion....treat the puppy for the parasites with.....Albon & Metronidazole.  It certainly would not hurt the puppy, and better safe than sorry.
*I know people may think that it's premature to treat before testing....but I would do it anyway, especially if the puppy was imported.
Best wishes,
Robin

Hi Randy,

I agree on the possibility of the pup having Coccidia and most likely Giardia as well.  I just had the same thing with a litter born here from a bitch arriving from Europe.  Pups went off their food completely for 4 days...you could tell they were hungry, they eagerly came to the plate to eat, but turned up their noses and walked away. This was to MANY different offerings of types of food, from their normal kibble with raw egg, goats milk, and raw ground turkey which they had previously been eating ravenously...to pure canned food, cooked turkey, cottage cheese and many other tempting and great smelling foods...

 I Did take a stool sample for analysis in to my vet, because I wanted to know exactly what to treat for, and they tested positive for both these parasites.  These symptoms reared their ugly heads very suddenly, at the time I officially removed Mom from the nursing of the pups. The stress from weaning triggered it.   The parasites give the pups a stomach ache, from attaching to the intestinal wall, then causing irritation and inflammation to the intestine, gut and as a result, making them feel sick to their stomach when attempting to eat.  High Coccidia infestation causes bleeding into the intestine which eventually shows up in the stool, caused from the attachment and biting into the intestinal wall from these parasites.   Left untreated, this can cause serious consequences to the pups from a very bad infestation. 

 

Treatment: 
Albon was used for the Coccidia, and Panaceur for the giardia. They did NOT like the Panaceur (powder) and of course with them not eating, it's pretty obvious that you can't expect to put it on their food and have them eat it...so I had to get creative, and ended up mixing DYne (high caloric supplement, tastes sweet and it's thick like Karo syrup) so I could give it with a syringe and they would tolerate and accept it. After the first day, their tummies started feeling better, and they SLOWLY began to eat again. They remained fairly active through this ordeal, and once they began to eat and got the meds into their system for several days, they got back to their normal boisterous selves quickly.
It's really pretty scary when pups that age simply will not eat. They can go downhill very fast...and dehydration can occur rapidly in these situations.  One thing I did try that worked until I got them to eat again was to continue bringing Mom in two - three times each day for them to nurse...even though I wanted to wean the pups, I was happy that at least they continued to nurse and get rehydrated from suckling and taking nourishment from her milk. 

Be very diligent with stool pick up and kennel sanitation when dealing with Coccidia and Giardia, as it is easily passed around from foot traffic, and the Coccidia is very resistant to treatment to kill off in kennels.
I'm finding it present in nearly every dog that has come over from Europe.

Jean