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by 4pack on 26 February 2011 - 18:02
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by gsdsch3v on 26 February 2011 - 19:02
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by Dog1 on 26 February 2011 - 19:02
I just returned from Germany where I paid close attention to the European design. They have years of experience and it shows. Solid panels between dogs keeps them quiet and safe. The bars are vertical without horizontal members which minimizes jumping up on the walls.
If I thought I could get enough orders for the panels, I'd start making the ones like they have in Germany. Let me know if you're interested.
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by alboe2009 on 01 March 2011 - 06:03
Also, last year I was in New Mexico looking at partnering up on a kennel and I was building a prototype, P/T w/ cattle panels you can see both in my pics. Client became difficult, (wanted 40 kennels each 10' X 20" threw off all dimensions of the material dimensions, too much waste/too much work) so the prototype was never completed but you can see the materials/framing.
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by UglyK9 on 01 March 2011 - 13:03
http://www.lbarmranch.com/index.html
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by wlpool on 01 March 2011 - 14:03
Alboe,
Where can I see the pictures? I actually have tons of nice panels running around and was considering conversion to do stuff, but was leaning more towards buying finished product for the new place.
Where are your pictures at?
Thanks,
W
by Skie on 01 March 2011 - 17:03
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by alboe2009 on 02 March 2011 - 02:03
I routed a "rabbit" or groove/ledge for the panels to sit in. Once the frame wall was joined and frame the panesl is "inside" the frame, hence no fasteners needed (for the panels) now when you frame up the entire frame then you'll need fasteners. The "legs" (2'' on the ground with no panels would be planted in concrete/ground. Only the "end" kennels would be planted. I was going to build two rows of twenty with the end kennels planted.
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by Rik on 02 March 2011 - 03:03
Windy, if you have any of the bar type horse panels, these are very good for dogs (provided the bars are not too wide spaced). they can't bounce off them at full speed. this is the type I saw in Germany. they did have solid panels between the dogs.
Rik
for those wanting to buy the best pre-built, Mason with the 1" mesh can't be beat. Kinda pricey, but you will never have to replace.
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by alboe2009 on 02 March 2011 - 04:03
Can't remember the exact price of the panels? I want to say $26.00 for a 54/56" X 16". Then cost of P/T 4X4s, a 4X8 @ $8.00 a 10' a little more. The most time consuming part was routing the rabbit/trench for the panel to nestle in, Good luck and the thing was solid as a mountain.
I have heard that "chewers" might hurt or damage/destroy their canines/teeth by wearing down to the nerves or breaking the teeth on the "galvanized but I have never had a dog like that. Let us see the finished product.
Also the front was going to be framed out with 4x4s which would be strong enough for a gate/door; very little if any sagging or strong enough to frame out a drop/raise sliding door.
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