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Red Sable:

Everyone is assuming...when you have two people on facebook claiming something was verbal, you have  an impossible situation

My reply above was to normal breeders who sell or market on   a LIST OF FORMER CUSTOMERS< and a WAITING LIST,  which is how I mainly sold every pup I ever birthed and still have people wanting a pup , and I am out of the breeding.

I do not know any Quality Breeder that uses free facebook advertising to sell quality dogs .

NOT my interest.    Facebook has caused some major problems in all walks of life.

It becomes a  HE SAID SHE SAID  situation which doesn't hold water nor reputation to it.

I have no knowledge of how facebook sales go or are handled.

NO one knows even if this is a scam..MOST scammers use online    internet sites like YAHOO and FACEBOOK to con anyone they can and take the money and no one ever can do one thing about it..MOST internet sites tell all members...DO NOT SEND MONEY to or make any BUSINESS deals without proper identification and getting proper paperwork.

That protects the host carrier of that internet site.  JUST because you put an ad in a newspaper doesnt mean they are real either..

MOST  sport breeders use the USA Schutzhund Magazine to sell their registered litters..OTHERS use local newspapers and it is high sky on pricing even for one or two weeks of running..

GOOD LUCK getting your deposit back.    Scams are done daily from dogs to cats to money deals to pay for a new  husband or wife..Send the deposit and a girl will appear in your mailbox in two weeks..Send cashier check or  Western Union  to GHANA or  Nigeria and marry one of them online...   DO not make me laugh.

The poster said   some breeders above only for the money"  I just spit coffee all over the screen on that one... 

Get real...THe person who took your daughters money  on Facebook is the one   ONLY ABOUT MONEY>>for a pup not even born or bred?????


YR

My daughter has always been very trusting of people, to the point it use to make me afraid for her.  For this woman to do this to her is beyond words..  As I told her, learn your lesson and don't look back.

That is a good fatherly advice.

Maybe you can stick around and join in and she can see how the dog world is a great place but like any other venue....

GOOD AND BAD.

Knowledge is  the seed of Success

YR

YR - There was a litter , in the first thread it said there was a litter, and we don't know what the details where if there was only girls, or only one puppy, or what.. Even the Poster is complaining not for themselves, but for there Daughter.. so its all hear say anyways.. I think we have come up with alot of "what if" ideas, and Hopefully this was NOT a scam as you said.. because your so right.
But if this is a breeder, and the person put a deposit down on the litter and there was not a puppy that she wanted ( because she only wanted the Pick boy) , and she decides to walk away- then the deposit stays with the breeder. A deposit is a promise to buy.

Whisper

PS. If I had a buyer that was complaining enough, I would know better that there is already hostility in the relationship, and I would find a way to give back the deposit, but it would still have to be AFTER I sold the puppy that they planned on buying. Sometimes you just can't please people, and Its better to let those buyers go, hang up the phone, block there emails.. because they are not the buyers you can have a healthy relationship with.

Kimmelot:   

I do not want to disagree with you   but    the poster of this thread  pmed me and says. TO  ME : QUOTE

This is not the copy of the pm but a quote to the content .

The dog is not ,not pregnant nor is she in heat. So you tell me what cost is it, when the only conversations that they had was on Facebook. There is no contract either. According to the breeder she hates contracts so it was only her word that my daughter would get a spring baby.

THERE ARE NO PUPPIES    NEVER WERE..

ACCORDING TO POSTER , the daughter found out , not knowing how, the pug the lady owned is pregnant and had pups not the dog she told the daughter she could have a pup out of .

Talk about con ...this is a con


YR

"He who pleases all pleases no one"

To the OP. I can undersatnd your concerns for your daughter, but depending on your daughters' age it is her battle. I believe your first thread was for peoples' thoughts on a situation we, let alone you do not have all the facts. I can not comment on the facts as I was not there.

But now when you hear information not to your liking then we have............not exactly hostility but we'll just say tensions? We as listeners only have bit's and pieces of what really happened.

As much as you don't want to hear it and I don't know the age of your daughter but RED FLAGS should have been blowing in the wind on that day! Enough said on that. I won't add insult to injury. What's done is done. And she has two choices................. Move on, chalk it up to experience or cowboy up and get ready to rumble. Small claims court, Tirple B, and whatever else MIGHT help. With no documentation it should be a lesson well learned.

Ya know, maybe my post will do some good after all.  I hope that it will get breeders to rethink their business practices and take the steps to not only cover themselves but the buyer too.  Please to all breeders do not do wrong by the buyers.  Make sure your dogs go to people who truly want them and will cherish them as much as you do.  It's too late for my daughter but do your homework, both breeders and   buyers.  Never trust anyone that does not ask the right questions and provide the proper paperwork.  To all of you who are in it only for the money, you know who you are, ya know nevermind, because no matter what anyone says, you will never change and from all of us,  Shame on you!

Wow Dmontg.. I can totaly agree with what your saying!  I am sorry this happend to your daughter, and if it really was a scam I suggest talking with the police, having them do an investigation, as internet fraud is nothing to mess with either.
Good luck to you and your daughter.

Whisper Gray

And for you "Bhaugh"  she didn't change her mind her living situation has changed and you would have known that if you had read the original post.  The breeder didn't care even knowing that the dog might not have a permanent home.  What kind of breeder is that?  So I guess you have never made a mistake at a young age.  Being completely new to the breeder world, I'm sure there are plenty of people that have made big mistakes.  And as I said, she has learned a huge, expensive lesson, but she has moved on with her life and I told her to remember the lesson but never look back.