Puppy Dysplasia Issue - Page 2

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's because frankly  I think something is fishy because it doesn't pass the smell test!  

 All of us except Kelly? Really? I don't see a single "judgement" on here- only several requests for a bit more info which has yet to be provided, hence we take what's written with a grain of salt, as most logical, thinking people do when they don't have enough info to do otherwise!

Where did I say, in this post? I said "on this site" as any logical, thinking person is able to decipher.
I'll also say that Hexe making the implication about the OP not "researching the breed" is passing judgement on the OP. Any logical, thinking prson is able to see that.

 Yeah, I got that. And I disagreed. You posted it in this thread, using this thread to make quite a leap. 

How did you do anything different from Hexe in your post? Did you not call them and most of their buyers BYBs? I think there may have been, as you say, an "implication" that the OP didn't do their research.

See how easily things can get twisted?

Note- the OP has not returned, didn't feel compelled to answer any questions, furnish any further info, or really add anything at all to the thread. He/she wants the kennel to not be allowed to advertise, to which we naturally replied with questions, which remain unanswered. I, frankly, am wondering now why any of us even care anymore, since the OP seems not to.

 

 

You must be slipping. I hope you're okay.
What I said is that the people Shawn bought his dogs from are BYB's. (Yes, I am making an implication here and I stand by it)

I think that a lot of people come on this site to post something and then get stomped all over, which is the implication I got from reading Hexe's post. They get intimidated, especially then when others tell them that this is there first post, and, therefore, they have no credibility.
Why would this person come back?
That's the only reason I even posted on this thread.
As for fishy, like Sue said, I, too, think that something is fishy. The breeder doesn't respond, their web site is down, and, I WOULD NEVER TRUST ANYONE THAT TOUTS THEMSELVES AS, "THE DOG WHISPERER" OF ANY COUNTRY. First, it's a trademark infringement, second, it's a cheap way of selling to people that are relying on that being some sort of credibility.

As for the OP, I would be a lot more skeptical if the person came her with a tyrannical rant, but, they didn't. They only stated what has, supposedly, occurred and that, "IF" the breeder is not doing things properly, like continuing to breed dogs that produce dysplastic pups, they should stop.

I will always be skeptical of someone who signs up on a message board only to bad mouth a breeder.   The fact remains we really have no clue what actually transpired because the OP provided no proof and the breeder is not one who posts on this board.   

Mar,
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I think he is a BYB, has bought dogs from BYB's, and I stated that, and I stand by my statement. I actually took a little time to look up some info on him, did you?
Where the confusion is, is that Jen thought that I was saying his purchasers are BYB's. I didn't say that..

OGBS,

I see where I missed the part from Jen,  I do not know of the breeder or the original poster so I can not pass judgment on either.  If the breeder is Legit, or BYB, or Puppy mill, he has the right to advertise and it is the person that is looking to purchase that needs to do homework to find out as much info before they get a dog.  Too many people jump to the first dog they find.  The original poster could have a legit complaint or could be a rival that wants to discredit or could be a disgruntled x-employee, again we do not know who he or she is and what the truth of any of this is, so fighting among ourselves is pointless.  There is always two sides to any story and then there is the truth.

******************** I don't see how you can consider it judgemental to give an explanation that two parents with sound hips and elbows can't or won't produce offspring that may have less than sound hip and/or elbows. I DON'T know how deeply they researched the breed (or the breeder, for that matter), so there's no reason we can assume they know that two normal parents can produce affected offspring, and in their first paragraph, they suggest that perhaps the parents *weren't* sound--based on the fact that they can't translate the documents given to them by the breeder, and that their poor dog lost in the genetic card game as far as his hips and elbows are concerned. I stayed away from addressing the other issues WRT the warranty and the lack of responsiveness from the breeder solely because I figured doing so would probably result in the thread disappearing, given the atmosphere here these days. Figured it was safer to just address the fact that hip and elbow dysplasia are far more complicated than can be solved simply by radiographing parents and confirming that they are normal. Perhaps you didn't see this thread with it's original title--"Van Kennel Name--Bad Breeder"?
 
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