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by malndobe on 29 January 2011 - 16:01
Just a thought, but the OP didn't specifically say the raid was on one breeder. "a breeder raid" could be taken as 1 or more. I don't think you would say "a breeders raid"?? Then again, I also wouldn't expect perfect English on the WWW. There is probably some mistakes in my post LOL
It's possible though the raid is going to be on multiple breeders in one day, hit them all so nobody has any warning. In which case the 120+ dogs could be from a number of sources.
It's possible though the raid is going to be on multiple breeders in one day, hit them all so nobody has any warning. In which case the 120+ dogs could be from a number of sources.
by Bob McKown on 29 January 2011 - 16:01
Um... All my dog are on cement runs which can be disinfected on a regular basis. All are up to date on current vaccinations and I,ve got local law enforcement here on a regular basis.
I,ve got nothing to fear or worry about. I also don,t produce litters on a regular basis or have dogs running in dirt or gravel runs. When I stop seeing puppy millers with hundreds of dogs in terrible shape guts hanging out eye,s infected feet destroyed from being on wire all there lives. Or when i,m worried about having to place puppies cause i,ve breed to many and don,t have buyers then I do need some one to intervieen on there behave. I,m not saying that I agree with everything HSUS does by any means but until RESPONSIBLR DOG OWNERS start taking matters in hand and until AKC starts looking at more then $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for breeding papers we have to live with evil.
I,ve got nothing to fear or worry about. I also don,t produce litters on a regular basis or have dogs running in dirt or gravel runs. When I stop seeing puppy millers with hundreds of dogs in terrible shape guts hanging out eye,s infected feet destroyed from being on wire all there lives. Or when i,m worried about having to place puppies cause i,ve breed to many and don,t have buyers then I do need some one to intervieen on there behave. I,m not saying that I agree with everything HSUS does by any means but until RESPONSIBLR DOG OWNERS start taking matters in hand and until AKC starts looking at more then $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for breeding papers we have to live with evil.
by alboe2009 on 29 January 2011 - 17:01
Who/what is HSUS? And their authority stems from what entity/agency? Or their own?
by Duderino on 29 January 2011 - 17:01
Keith, you are not reading correctly, as Malndobe brought up, this raid will cover multiple facilities and they're are looking for volunteers to house/foster the TOTAL seizure, not 120 dogs from one facility. Bob if you think you have nothing to fear you are sadly mistaken. The HSUS is behind legislation in just about every state to eliminate ALL ANIMAL OWNERSHIP not just puppy mills.
http://brownfieldagnews.com/2010/12/09/nebraska-governor-on-hsus-were-going-to-beat-them/
http://brownfieldagnews.com/2011/01/21/nebraska-governor-not-backing-down-on-hsus/
http://brownfieldagnews.com/2010/12/09/nebraska-governor-on-hsus-were-going-to-beat-them/
http://brownfieldagnews.com/2011/01/21/nebraska-governor-not-backing-down-on-hsus/
by Jenni78 on 29 January 2011 - 18:01
My question is to the legitimacy of this thread in the first place. How do we verify it's credibility?
I am of course totally anti-HSUS, since I own animals (and am considered an animal hoarder by their definition, having 3 horses, 2 mini horses, 5 dogs and a cat), but I just wonder if we're not all getting our feathers ruffled unnecessarily.
If only it were so easy to take down people who were abusing animals; truly, it is NOT that easy, and I doubt that innocent people are going to lose their animals for no good reason at all. Let's not forget that old friend of ours who had 64 dogs seized....got a slap on the wrist. The worst puppymiller I know has had SPCA to her place NUMEROUS times and they do NOTHING.
There needs to be a balance, and legislation w/no agenda besides the good of the animals. HSUS and all the other groups are dangerous, dangerous, dangerous, yet most the people who work w/them are ignorant of that fact.
by Wahrheit on 29 January 2011 - 18:01
The original post is hysteria and has circulated the internet before. All states have animal welfare departments, often connected to their state Department of Agriculture. They are responsible for licensing and checking kennels. In some cases where a kennel is USDA registered, then the Feds can and do regulate such facilities. In this case, unfortunately, the rules are not strict enough and there are not enough inspections or inspectors.
If some of you who bitch about this kind of BS would spend time in your own locale trying to strengthen the regulations in place, meaning the people who are irresponsible and do not care for, feed, water, exercise and shelter their animals properly, rather than fly around posting such crap, maybe some of the puppy mils and people who otherwise neglect (or worse) their animals would be sanctioned. It is not the same as it used to be. To many people who post here, it is acceptable to keep a dog in a crate for most of the day and night, or leave them out without proper shelter and access to food or water or exercise. It is also fine for large breeding operations, some of which are well known and supposedly "reputable" to have almost 100 dogs and one or no help. But they breed and breed and breed and no one says a damn thing about it because they heard here what a great breeder this person is because he/she has some stupid trophies....
What a crock........
If some of you who bitch about this kind of BS would spend time in your own locale trying to strengthen the regulations in place, meaning the people who are irresponsible and do not care for, feed, water, exercise and shelter their animals properly, rather than fly around posting such crap, maybe some of the puppy mils and people who otherwise neglect (or worse) their animals would be sanctioned. It is not the same as it used to be. To many people who post here, it is acceptable to keep a dog in a crate for most of the day and night, or leave them out without proper shelter and access to food or water or exercise. It is also fine for large breeding operations, some of which are well known and supposedly "reputable" to have almost 100 dogs and one or no help. But they breed and breed and breed and no one says a damn thing about it because they heard here what a great breeder this person is because he/she has some stupid trophies....
What a crock........
by Keith Grossman on 29 January 2011 - 19:01
"Keith, you are not reading correctly, as Malndobe brought up, this raid will cover multiple facilities and they're are looking for volunteers to house/foster the TOTAL seizure, not 120 dogs from one facility."
Speculation.
"The HSUS is behind legislation in just about every state to eliminate ALL ANIMAL OWNERSHIP not just puppy mills."
And it's never going to happen; feel free to quote me on that and/or tell me, "I told you so," when the laws are passed that eliminate this $50 billion per year (and growing) industry.
Speculation.
"The HSUS is behind legislation in just about every state to eliminate ALL ANIMAL OWNERSHIP not just puppy mills."
And it's never going to happen; feel free to quote me on that and/or tell me, "I told you so," when the laws are passed that eliminate this $50 billion per year (and growing) industry.
by Wahrheit on 29 January 2011 - 22:01
This is the kind of outfit the HSUS assists, along with state regulators, in raids.....doesn't look like any damn pet owner to me....oh, yeah, they raided some dog-fighting operations and cock-fighting places too recently. And, this raid took place in 2008. Maybe the OP can learn to check out hysterical emails before posting such BS.
Puppy Mill Operator Sentenced to 10 Years
CENTERVILLE, Tenn. —The Humane Society of the United States, the nation's largest animal protection organization, applauds Judge Timothy Easter for imposing an appropriate sentence following the conviction of Patricia Adkisson, owner of Pine Bluff Kennels in Lyles, Tenn., on animal cruelty charges.
On Feb. 18, Judge Easter sentenced Adkisson to ten years, including five years on Community Corrections where she will be heavily monitored. The remaining five years will be served under probationary supervision. Judge Easter imposed a lifetime ban on animal ownership or association with persons or organizations who deal in animals.
In December 2009, Patricia Adkisson was convicted of 14 counts of aggravated animal cruelty and 16 counts of misdemeanor animal cruelty. These charges stemmed from allegations that Adkisson neglected hundreds of dogs kept in her mass breeding business, Pine Bluff Puppies. Upon sentencing, Judge Easter noted the court found there was an indefensible treatment of animals and that Adkisson exhibits a low value for life in general.
"We are grateful to the judge as well as to the 21st Judicial District Attorney General's Office for treating animal cruelty as the crime it is. Authorities are serious about enforcing Tennessee's animal protection law, and this sends a message to other puppy mill operators out there that they won't get a free ride in our state," said Leighann McCollum, Tennessee state director for The HSUS.
"By imposing this sentence, Judge Easter recognized the magnitude of the cruelty and neglect suffered by these puppies and the other animals on Adkisson's property," said Tennessee 21st Judicial District Attorney General Kim Helper. "We appreciate the help provided to us by The Humane Society of the United States during the course of our investigation and subsequent trial."
The raid in June 2008 was set into motion by The HSUS' Tennessee state director, who received tips and worked with investigators with the 21st Judicial District Attorney General's Office to build a case against Adkisson. It was the largest puppy mill bust in Tennessee history.
The HSUS oversaw the removal of 747 animals from Adkisson's mass breeding facility. The 700 dogs and 47 other animals were taken to humane organizations across the country where they received necessary medial and behavioral care and placed up for adoption in new, loving homes.
Subsequently, The HSUS worked with the 21st Judicial District Attorney General's Office, legislators and others, including the Nashville Kennel Club, to pass legislation in Tennessee to crack down on puppy mills in the state.
http://www.humanesociety.org/search/search.jsp?query=pine+bluff+kennel
Puppy Mill Operator Sentenced to 10 Years
CENTERVILLE, Tenn. —The Humane Society of the United States, the nation's largest animal protection organization, applauds Judge Timothy Easter for imposing an appropriate sentence following the conviction of Patricia Adkisson, owner of Pine Bluff Kennels in Lyles, Tenn., on animal cruelty charges.
On Feb. 18, Judge Easter sentenced Adkisson to ten years, including five years on Community Corrections where she will be heavily monitored. The remaining five years will be served under probationary supervision. Judge Easter imposed a lifetime ban on animal ownership or association with persons or organizations who deal in animals.
In December 2009, Patricia Adkisson was convicted of 14 counts of aggravated animal cruelty and 16 counts of misdemeanor animal cruelty. These charges stemmed from allegations that Adkisson neglected hundreds of dogs kept in her mass breeding business, Pine Bluff Puppies. Upon sentencing, Judge Easter noted the court found there was an indefensible treatment of animals and that Adkisson exhibits a low value for life in general.
"We are grateful to the judge as well as to the 21st Judicial District Attorney General's Office for treating animal cruelty as the crime it is. Authorities are serious about enforcing Tennessee's animal protection law, and this sends a message to other puppy mill operators out there that they won't get a free ride in our state," said Leighann McCollum, Tennessee state director for The HSUS.
"By imposing this sentence, Judge Easter recognized the magnitude of the cruelty and neglect suffered by these puppies and the other animals on Adkisson's property," said Tennessee 21st Judicial District Attorney General Kim Helper. "We appreciate the help provided to us by The Humane Society of the United States during the course of our investigation and subsequent trial."
The raid in June 2008 was set into motion by The HSUS' Tennessee state director, who received tips and worked with investigators with the 21st Judicial District Attorney General's Office to build a case against Adkisson. It was the largest puppy mill bust in Tennessee history.
The HSUS oversaw the removal of 747 animals from Adkisson's mass breeding facility. The 700 dogs and 47 other animals were taken to humane organizations across the country where they received necessary medial and behavioral care and placed up for adoption in new, loving homes.
Subsequently, The HSUS worked with the 21st Judicial District Attorney General's Office, legislators and others, including the Nashville Kennel Club, to pass legislation in Tennessee to crack down on puppy mills in the state.
http://www.humanesociety.org/search/search.jsp?query=pine+bluff+kennel
by yellowrose of Texas on 29 January 2011 - 22:01
Unfortunately in some towns like posted here from Whitehouse, Texas , the city government gets into making laws that punish the owners of wonderful pets that do have more than two and take and are capable of having several cats and several dogs because they are very knowledgeable and have children and family teaching them to care properly...
HSUS is not involved with this but other agencies in Texas who are against dog ownership and want money made by lots of fines and PERMITS...
'I do not think this will ever pass..TOO many owners of pets in our city have many and take good care and they see this as City Government overstepping...doesn't have anything to do with PUPPY MILL here...all the puppymills live in the country back towards Canton..
http://www.cbs19.tv/Global/story.asp?S=13916769
YR
HSUS is not involved with this but other agencies in Texas who are against dog ownership and want money made by lots of fines and PERMITS...
'I do not think this will ever pass..TOO many owners of pets in our city have many and take good care and they see this as City Government overstepping...doesn't have anything to do with PUPPY MILL here...all the puppymills live in the country back towards Canton..
http://www.cbs19.tv/Global/story.asp?S=13916769
YR
by nanu on 30 January 2011 - 16:01
Not wanting to stir any hornets nest here but if you consider the size of any commercial kennel in Europe, you are likely looking at 50+ dogs. Is that a puppy mill?
Now if we are talking about dogs housed and whelping in little crates, then I concur.
Interesting.
Now if we are talking about dogs housed and whelping in little crates, then I concur.
Interesting.
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