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by malndobe on 22 January 2011 - 17:01
But in reality, I guess it is no worse than if it does happen by accident, as long as the ethical thing is done, and that is DNA
You are right, it is "no worse" It's a lot better, considering it's planned and not accidental. And if it's being done by a responsible breeder, doing DNA is a given. The whole point is to get pups from both sires, who wouldn't want to know which pup was which if they planned this???
You are right, it is "no worse" It's a lot better, considering it's planned and not accidental. And if it's being done by a responsible breeder, doing DNA is a given. The whole point is to get pups from both sires, who wouldn't want to know which pup was which if they planned this???
by nonacona60 on 22 January 2011 - 17:01
Tarek Allam..
Hi, Naaww no jokes today....I had one that got deleted as soon as it went it...Don't think anyone got a chance to attempt to read it....It was a little confusing to the person that just lokked at it and didn't try to read it....The mod didn't give it a chance...LOL....But I understand.....Hope all is well with you, and please keep us posted on that litter...
Hi, Naaww no jokes today....I had one that got deleted as soon as it went it...Don't think anyone got a chance to attempt to read it....It was a little confusing to the person that just lokked at it and didn't try to read it....The mod didn't give it a chance...LOL....But I understand.....Hope all is well with you, and please keep us posted on that litter...
by tarekallam on 22 January 2011 - 17:01
Nona-I will surely do.
take care.
take care.by MsColeson on 22 January 2011 - 18:01
The bitch was sold to a person who requested she be bred the first time by the breeder's stud. The person who purchased the already bred bitch was the one who allowed his sire to breed the bitch again.
He then decided then that he didn't want to mess with a dual breeding and all of the costs and trouble involved, so he contacted the person who sold the already bred by his request bitch to him and told her what had happend. He didn't want to mess with the dual breeding and said GSDs cost too much to feed anyway and that the Huskey's didn't eat near as much.
She did the "right" and only thing she could do. She purchased her now dual bred bitch back from him along with his sire that bred the bitch for the second time. He made her wait until she could pay for her bitch in full before he would release her. She drove in snow and ice with her son - a very long and trechourous trip to pick up her dual bred bitch once payment was made in full - all the time worrying if she would be able to get her female back home in time to whelp her safely!
Upon arrival to pick up her dual bred bitch she found that both her dual bred bitch and the stud dog were kept 20 plus hours per day in a basement in crates. She asked him if he just let them out to use the bathroom and he said "pretty much". She also purchased his stud and had him OFA prelimed immediately due to the fact that he had been kept in a crate for so long. She was worried the "crate time" may have affected his hips and elbows. The stud also had a bladder infection from not getting enough water - which she took care of too. Now she is doing the right thing to DNA both sires, the bitch and all 8 pups.
Sometimes a responsible breeder falls into the hands of an irresponsible buyer and just has to do the right thing for the dogs which I is what did happen in this case. She loves the dogs dearly and will always do the "right" thing by them.
He then decided then that he didn't want to mess with a dual breeding and all of the costs and trouble involved, so he contacted the person who sold the already bred by his request bitch to him and told her what had happend. He didn't want to mess with the dual breeding and said GSDs cost too much to feed anyway and that the Huskey's didn't eat near as much.
She did the "right" and only thing she could do. She purchased her now dual bred bitch back from him along with his sire that bred the bitch for the second time. He made her wait until she could pay for her bitch in full before he would release her. She drove in snow and ice with her son - a very long and trechourous trip to pick up her dual bred bitch once payment was made in full - all the time worrying if she would be able to get her female back home in time to whelp her safely!
Upon arrival to pick up her dual bred bitch she found that both her dual bred bitch and the stud dog were kept 20 plus hours per day in a basement in crates. She asked him if he just let them out to use the bathroom and he said "pretty much". She also purchased his stud and had him OFA prelimed immediately due to the fact that he had been kept in a crate for so long. She was worried the "crate time" may have affected his hips and elbows. The stud also had a bladder infection from not getting enough water - which she took care of too. Now she is doing the right thing to DNA both sires, the bitch and all 8 pups.
Sometimes a responsible breeder falls into the hands of an irresponsible buyer and just has to do the right thing for the dogs which I is what did happen in this case. She loves the dogs dearly and will always do the "right" thing by them.
by hodie on 22 January 2011 - 18:01
Sometimes irresponsible breeders and irresponsible buyers fall into the hands of each other....and deserve exactly what they get. Selling a pregnant female is clue one. Selling a dog to someone who keeps dogs in crates 20 hours plus a day is clue 2.....
Hopefully the first breeder will do the right thing by the dogs........
Hopefully the first breeder will do the right thing by the dogs........
by malndobe on 22 January 2011 - 19:01
Selling a pregnant female is clue one
How is this irresponsible? Not getting into the who portion of the sale, sounds like someone had an adult female to sale, they sold it, the buyer asked them to breed it to the seller's male before they took the female, and they did?
In what way is that irresponsible?
I purchased female named Zara vd Berlex-Hoeve from Belgium about 7 years ago. We (the person I purchased her with) specifically asked the seller when she was due in heat, because if it was any time soon we wanted her to remain there, be bred to a stud we had selected, then shipped to us a few weeks after the breeding. He said she wasn't due for months, imagine our surprise when she arrived and was at the beginning of the heat cycle.
Anyway, exactly how does that make me irresponsibe?
How is this irresponsible? Not getting into the who portion of the sale, sounds like someone had an adult female to sale, they sold it, the buyer asked them to breed it to the seller's male before they took the female, and they did?
In what way is that irresponsible?
I purchased female named Zara vd Berlex-Hoeve from Belgium about 7 years ago. We (the person I purchased her with) specifically asked the seller when she was due in heat, because if it was any time soon we wanted her to remain there, be bred to a stud we had selected, then shipped to us a few weeks after the breeding. He said she wasn't due for months, imagine our surprise when she arrived and was at the beginning of the heat cycle.
Anyway, exactly how does that make me irresponsibe?
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