Any questions ?? I owned Alk ...... For a dog to have a 1997 USA Nationals score of 100-98-99=297V   and a dog to have had 145 felony apprehensions on the road and 15 bites who can talk bad about the dog .................. OK ! Oh I forgot ..... the only USA Police Team Dog to ever place in the top 10 ever as in 7th place in Augsburg in 1998 in the IDM held in conjunction with the BSP. Well any questions you can forward them to me .....Alk was mittle kraftig (middle size) , he was not small ..... 84 lbs with a Koer 1. But please do remember one thing with any breeding .... the pups will only be as good as the people working them ..... there were (duds) yes not all were great  or even close to it. ........ TY to all others that spoke well and for you people who speak without the correct information please do your research before producing eronious information. I am quite outspoken but anyone who knows me .... knows I speak from the truth ..... Regards ..... Greg 

Clearing the air !     Someone spoke about one of the dogs Alk or Bronson being a bit of a knucklehead ..... Well I know my Alk was not a knucklehead ....... always clean and clear in the mind ..... Bronson certainly not a knucklehead either ...... Maybe Mike or I are a knuckle head certainly not the 2 dogs here.   lol !      Yours in the Sport !  Greg

Wow, 84 pounds? I remember him as a small (but very stocky) dog. But then, you're a big guy so maybe it just warped my perspective! I always loved watching you two trial--he worked so well for *you*--very clean and honest and accurate. 

I also got to watch him do bitework at about 10 years old at our club one time--he was fit and sound and strong that day as quite a mature fellow.

I'd be happy to see him in a pedigree, personally.

All the dogs I have known with Alk in their pedigree were excellent clear headed dogs.  I guess they all had good mothers.  I wish Pharaoh had a bit of Alk in him, he is a knucklehead.

There are people who say that Lord was a weak dog because a few of the offspring were weak.  I think as a percentage, they are barely a blip.

Some people think that a dog who isn't sharp and reactive and hyperactive (as in ADD or ADHD) is weak.

Lord and his beautiful son Alk, were Great Dogs, Real Dogs.

It is just like with humans, I prefer the strong silent type who can handle trouble very efficently when needed.

I wish Pharaoh were more like that.  He has a lot of "sport dog" in him in addition to knucklehead.

Michele

I guess I left that to open with my original question. Was Alk a stong stud dog that stamped himself in the 3rd, 4th ,and 5th gernerations. From what I see, unless he was bred to a strong bitch with stellar back ground, he did not produce well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI-jqq_Fea0&feature=related

For those interested, here is a video of Lord working.

My dogs have Alk a few generations back; strong, clear headed dogs. Very responsive to their handlers, intelligent, good work ethic, strong dogs. I haven't had the time or money to do all I could have with these dogs, but they would be up for anything put before them. Very nice dogs!

 

I guess I left that to open with my original question. Was Alk a stong stud dog that stamped himself in the 3rd, 4th ,and 5th gernerations. From what I see, unless he was bred to a strong bitch with stellar back ground, he did not produce well.

I think any dog who produces his own traits 3, 4, 5 generations down is a dog who produces himself 1 and 2 generations down--and these progeny with these traits are recognized and selected and bred well to strong mates. No stud dog will have a significant influence if his best children are not recognized for those traits and also bred to maintain that.

Obviously Alk's father was considered to be a very good dog to have in working lines--he's a commonly found name. So, when you see something 3 or 4 generations down--are you seeing Alk or are you seeing Lord? 

Although, it can certainly be said that Yoschy's contributions were slightly different from his grandfather Fero's. So, Yoschy is Fero+Troll+ his motherline--and it does have a somewhat different "flavor" from another bloodline going back to Fero.

The whole question comes down to the genetics! No question, Alk was a great dog. He just didn't throw himself as many great dogs don't. In order to get a great sport dog like Alk, you have to have a great pup. The very nice pups out of Alk were from tough, strong bitches such as SchH1Queenie von Haus Antverpa

LOSH/ AKC DL 48391301
HD-OFA: Good
Dam

No one has to take offense because no one is questioning Alk himself. It was the brood bitch that made for very nice pedigrees in Alk's case though.

I knew Queenie myself and indeed this was a nice bitch !!!!   Regards .......... Greg       

  It is well known..Behind every good man is a good woman.....lol  Same with the dogs!!!!

 Greg and Alk....I could not get the picture to not blur when I enlarged it.....JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY PIC.. I am sure Greg has posted a much better one..but mine is special...lol

Lord is one great imprinter in his progheny...I had a male with Lord in the 3rd generatom bred to  Gento vom Haus Lawrin who gave Dieter his grdam Nessel von Haus Antverpa...Impacting some very strong , strong nerves and drive...

Greg could make a TOP dog out of a Pancake if it had legs , a heart and a brain..!!

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