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Bhall

by Bhall on 12 December 2010 - 04:12

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_megaesophagus.html

Here you can see the difference

Bhall

by Bhall on 12 December 2010 - 04:12

Another picture of an xray I found online from a dog that has mega-e


Rik

by Rik on 12 December 2010 - 04:12

Bhall, your vet should be able to determine this very easily. If the esophagus shows a pouch, then that is the story.

There can be varying degrees of the symptoms. From very serious that shows in young pups at first feeding of solids to less detectable that shows up later.

Hope you keep us informed on the results.

Rik

by B.Andersen on 12 December 2010 - 04:12

I have no experience with it but from what I understand from others I believe she would have had it earlier very early and you would have noticed it. The condition I have heard will get better sometimes with age not worse. It does not just appear then disappear. Sounds more like a obstruction. I am glad you took her back. What did your vet say?

Rik

by Rik on 12 December 2010 - 05:12

BHall,

In the litter I bred, 6 of 7 had obvious mega-e.

With contrast, the pouch was very visible. No question.

And the issue can very definitely show up later or even not at all. depends on the severity.

Rik

Bhall

by Bhall on 12 December 2010 - 13:12

Rik,  I understand and I have seen it plenty of times.  However, it can NOT appear and disappear.  This is the third day she is here and still nothing.

by matthews3662 on 12 December 2010 - 15:12

I'm not a vet, but I see no blockage or any enlarged anything. I say this dog was a little upset at new home and was just under stress.
I would say if you don't see anything odd then the puppy might of been overwhelmed and the lady had an experience with a first time puppy and maybe the dog was sick due to a change in dogfood. I try to feed the puppies I get the same thing, then slowly wean them onto something else if I feel it is best.
Hope the pup gets back on track and it all works out.

Bhall

by Bhall on 12 December 2010 - 16:12

matthew3662,  I agree.  I am not a vet either.  I do not agree with every vet either.  They are human and can make mistakes.  This vet is probably a very good vet.  However, I just fed her again 1 hour ago.  Dry kibble (TOTW).  No problems at all.  Took her out and she had a nice solid bowel movement.  Did not regurgitate food.

Kimmelot

by Kimmelot on 12 December 2010 - 17:12

Hi Bhall ,

I had 3 Mega E puppies in 2 years, totally un expected, and out of 2 different types of breedings. The first one was SOOO unexpected, but I did notice the puppy throwing up its food when it would stuff its self. It was also making a weird noise when it was running- its so hard to explain but it sounded kinda like when horses have a belly full of water and your riding them at a trot ( like a balloon rubbing its self)- I could also see kinda of a bulging on the neck as the puppy was breathing hard . With this first puppy I just guessed what it must be, and gave him to a knowledgeable home. There Vet confirmed it, and it is a healthy 3 year old that stays on medication and eats from an elevated bowl.

It was the female's first litter, and she was out of some pretty fancy AM Show lines bred to our German Show lines male. Sense then this female has not produced it with any other male. (2 other litters, one with a Hungarian Show, and one with German SCH working line)

The way I understand this is that the Esophagus is a muscle that has a lot of nerves keeping it in contraction (or tight), and Mega E is where there is some nerve damage and there will be a loose spot where the muscle is not tight. Some dogs grow completely out of it- The other 2 of mine only had it lightly as pups and grew out of it. We know this is Genetic, but there is also other ways the puppy could get it when they are young including damaging the esophagus or having the mother bite them wrong.

I did not see any obvious dipps or loose spots on the film, but I am not a DVM. It can be almost anywhere from above the stomach to inbetween the shoulderblades.

There are breeders out there that will never experiance this, and there are some that have had whole litters die because they where all MgE . I hope you get down to the bottom of it, and figure out if its true or not. A MgE puppy can live a LONG happy life, and I am sure glad you saved this one from needlessly being put to sleep.

Whisper




Bhall

by Bhall on 12 December 2010 - 17:12

I am glad also that I begged her to bring the puppy back.    I have seen dogs with Mega-E but this pup has absolutely NO symptoms at all. 
here is a short video of her so ya'll can see how cute she is.  Bad quality video but still cute.






 


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