Shock Collar's - Page 2

9 months old and already talking about a shock collar?  If he is not responding, he does not know what you really want.  Consistency and not over using the word "here" to begin with.  Not "here, here, here".  Once and follow up.  Reward not punishment.   RS is correct, but don't pollute another command with not being consistant.

Or get help like Jim and Jenni mentioned.....

In all fairness to the people I would recommend, I will not.

Sir, I heard about you several months ago and have seen the other thread on this board about you and I would not refer you to anyone I respect and trust. I also would not refer you to some fool that thinks they can train. That said in fairness to you and your dog.

If you truly wish help and to learn, the good people in your area are not hard to find. I will suggest that you seek them out for help with this dog. That is the only recommendation I can give you.

Well thanks.  I have gone out to the metrocarolina schutzzhund club but it is like 1 hour from my house.  And I have Mike Bullock in Greenville that I worked with about 4 years ago but he is about 3 hours away.  I will figure it out.  I respect your post.

Mindhunt....great advice.  Thanks. 

calling them "shock collars" is not politically correct.

1 hour is far????

JWalker.....I had same issue with my male dog...he would not come to save my life unless i had treats (that drove me nuts!),i didn't try to entice him with treats after i saw that he would evaluate me to see if i had treats and when i showed him i had something in my hand he happily ran to me...its when i called w/o a treat or with a stern voice he knew there was no treats and decided that it was not worth coming to me i had to herd him in on 1 acre a few times just to get to him and than drag his 100 pound body which he would turn limp to where i wanted him to go...few times he tried hiding under the deck and i had to pull him by his hind legs out....anyways...the point is he was 7 months when i got him by the time he was 1 year old he had a perfect recall i just simply showed him that when i call him he was going to come to me or was going to be dragged to where i was standing when i called him to me, if you let him get away with not coming back he will learn that he can ignore you....believe me a few times i was ready to "kill" him, longest time i had to round him up was almost 30 min....i had to use a rake to make sure he could not get past me, we went up and down the back yard till he gave up and lied down, i came up grabbed him by his collar and drag/walked him to the deck, told him to sit, lie down...and than released and walked away......the point is..when you call him he must come regardless why.......hope that made sense and possibly helped.

a person not willing to travel 1 hour is not really serious about his training skills anyway.wish to hell i had a club that close.they couldn't keep me from a meet.