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Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 06 November 2010 - 00:11

Sadly, there have been many precedent setting cases in Canada regarding Dogs biting “Bad Guys” (literally). In Canadian Law, the only thing a person has to fear from Breaking the Law (any Law), is the Law and “Reasonable & Necessary Force” must be applied when enforcing the Law. A dog on its own cannot judge what reasonable & necessary force is required to repel an intruder.

If, you were to find an intruder in or on your premises you are entitled by Law to use whatever reasonable and necessary force is required to repel the intruder or make a citizens arrest to detain the intruder until the Police arrive.

So you can, tell an intruder that they are under Citizens Arrest and if they attempt to flee you will release your K9 in order to stop them or protect you from harm.

Bottom line is, do what me, Slamdunc and many others do…lock your gate and hope that in the event of a law suit reasonable minds prevail.



by crhuerta on 06 November 2010 - 00:11

I completely agree with Pirates Lair....be cautious on the "types" of signs that are posted.
To comment on the OT....."this would be the same reason there are warning labels on plastic bags"....people sometimes are just oblivious to their surroundings...which boils down to....WE (dog owners) must be more careful.
JMO
Robin

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 06 November 2010 - 01:11

 Pirates Lair, you have the right idea.  I was always told to get the no trespassing signs instead of beware of dog......otherwise you're asking for trouble anyway.  I had one bozo who wouldn't listen to me a while back, like a year ago when Anubis was out while I was doing yard work.  He decides he's going to just come on in even though I told him, let me put the dog up first.  Well, Anubis runs to check him out, the guy acts like he's going to attack my dog,   At that age my dog didn't really respond either way......if he had done that now, a year later, my dog would have bitten the crap out of him.  He did come by again recently, same guy, the water meter guy,  I grabbed the gate before he came in this time, locked it (which I do now if I have a dog out) and I told him don't come in here until I put my dog up. He got mad, but I'll protect my "property" dogs, and I won't put myself in a situation where something like this will happen.......If someone comes in who really has no business coming in our yard.....well, best of luck to them.... We've had construction guys out lately, well, for inside house work, I just keep the dogs put up inside the basement if they're going to be going in and out of the upstairs. I know a couple of the guys are scared to death of dogs in general, and I know some people just don't like dogs, so regardless if people are over to work on our house for anything I just keep the dogs confined where nothing can happen.

Judy I can't believe it was just his pants and a few scratches lol.  


DebiSue

by DebiSue on 06 November 2010 - 01:11

The safety of my dog always comes first...I could care less what happens to the moron that finds his way into my locked gate/6ft privacy fenced yard.  My dog is never let out without me or my husband with her, no matter what.  Before we started locking our gates, I found one open at 5am when it had been latched at 10pm the previous night.  Good thing I had gone out with Echo or I would have been missing a dog.  We have no idea who was in our yard late at night, nothing was missing or messed with so probably just neighborhood kids.  In the 12yrs we have lived here we have had no problem.  Now the gates have padlocks on them so no more problems.  We have no warning signs either but if we did it would be one of those "Forget the dog, Beware the owner" signs.  But we don't like to advertise.  LOL.  One thing to consider...a Canine Good Citizen certificate would be a good thing to have and may go a long way in defense of your dogs.

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 06 November 2010 - 01:11

DebiSue

A Canine Good Citizen certificate is an excellent way of showing "Due Diligence" on your part .
 
In B.C. where we live you can also contact Utility companies and have your home put on a "Call before Entering" list, they will call and arrange a time with you so that your K9 is locked up.

May be worth exploring if this is an option in your location. Again = Due Diligence by the dog owner

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 06 November 2010 - 02:11

You know what's funny? if the dog is serious and actually is doing its job, it will be on the fence before the guy gets to the gait. Once again, if the dog is actually serious, I would think the guy would stay out. Not trying to start anything here as I know some people have 10 acres and the dog could be late to respond, but in most cases the dog should be aware before the intruder intrudes. I have a puppy that is aware of every car that goes down my road. If they slow down he moves forward. If they pull in the drive, he's on the fence.

by angusmom on 06 November 2010 - 02:11

i have "German Shepherd Crossing" signs out and the front gate is locked. The meter readers always come to the door & let me know they're there. I put the dogs up & it's all good. If I'm not home, they make up some number lol. actually, they can use a scope from over the wall & some actually do! i feel bad for ya tho, dealing with idiots is never that much fun. and with certain breeds, some people want to assume the worst.

animules

by animules on 06 November 2010 - 02:11

I use the "Stop! Dogs in Yard" signs, as well as keep the gates padlocked or big snaps (if I'm home).  I also have cowbells hung on each gate right next to the signs.  I am not willing to take the risk of some idiot causing me problems..........


CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 06 November 2010 - 02:11

I was also told the same thing regarding "Beware of Dog" signs.  By posting such a sign, you admit that your dog is potentially dangerous.

In a perfect world, people would actually bother to study in school and comprehend what they read, but this is not a perfect world.  Making sure that all gates are locked is the first step in protecting yourself from liability. 

The downside though, is you can still lose your backside if someone decides to climb your fence and gets bitten by your dog, or dogs.  The best you can hope for is for a jury that is actually halfway intelligent.

LOL, DebiSue...I like "Forget the Dog, Beware the Owner".  Couple that with a sign right below it showing a Smith and Wesson revolver, with the following inscription: "Forget ADT, This Property Is Protected by Smith and Wesson".  Or maybe "This Property Protected by Smith & Wesson and God...Trespass and You May Get To Meet Both."  One could have fun with signs, but unfortunately, I would imagine that pretty much any sign admits liability of some sort.

Crys

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 06 November 2010 - 02:11

Don I kinda thought that too.  If Anubis sees anyone approaching the fence he will jump all over it barking at them, only a fool would touch the fence while he is out.  The only guy who would be stupid enough, still, is our water meter guy which is why I have it locked.  He's out to prove he can take on every dog in the neighborhood I was told, the guy who runs the company said that guy is fearless and will take on any dog.....sounds like an idiot with an ego problem.





 


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