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by Jenni78 on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

If Jean doesn't care and isn't going to help, why is she asking you to have them retaken?

by Rugers Guru on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

#3 Hip films may be taken with your dog not sedated.

THIS does not look like a requirement, just a suggestion, and I would take it as such.

Renee
http://workingk9.lefora.com/

by mfh27 on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

Jen,

Jean isn't asking me to have them retaken. She is suggesting that I should do it . I don't know if Jean cares or is going to help. She is certainly not required nor do I expect anything from her.

Michele

by mfh27 on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

Renee,

Jean has changed her hip contract. The contract I have, states:

"#3 Hip films should be taken with dog not sedated"

by mfh27 on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

I should also note that after talking with Jean over the phone 1.5 years ago about not being able to find a vet who would do it without sedation, she stated the contract would be void.

by Mystere on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

The reason for suggesting that the films be sent to Germany is because you can get an "a" stamp (certification) with mild/moderate dysplasis (noch zuglassen (sp). There are breeders I know who send the films off for the a stamp, because they have reason to believe that the dog will not pass OFA, but they intend to show/survey/breed the dog regardless. Positioning isn't going to change the remodelling. If the dog has no clinical signs of dysplasia, is not in pain, etc., continue training and titling. Some dogs with mild dypslasia continue in the sport and into double-digit age with no problems at all. You will need to keep an eye on supplements and activities, though.

by Jenni78 on 13 October 2010 - 21:10

"Should"..............funny word.

If I want something to stick, legally, I use a word stronger than "should."

I only have a very old contract from her, so that won't be any help. Has she said she's not going to do anything?

As a breeder, I'm not sure how I feel about it. One, it's unilateral, making me think this very well could be an injury, and two, the dog is older than necessary for certification, which some breeders honor anyway, but some don't.

Sorry you got such disappointing mail.

by B.Andersen on 13 October 2010 - 22:10

They need to be taken again with the knees rotated in straight. I get better xrays under sedation as we can get positioning better IMO. But if waited too long for a xray acording to you contact then it is a mute point. He may pass SV.

by Rugers Guru on 14 October 2010 - 00:10

That still sounds like a request to me, not a requirement. Has she stated NOW since the dog is not going to pass OFA that the contract is void? I think a phone call is in order, I do not know many breeders that will not help in some way to make their customers happy, and in turn... Keep their good name.

Renee
http://workingk9.lefora.com/

by mfh27 on 14 October 2010 - 01:10

Interesting read Jen, but I don't take the opinion of one person to be the truth. Even if he is correct, he claims overgrowth and injury are the big causes of environmentally induce hip dysplasia. Neither apply to Robby. I made sure he was always very skinny. And I check his weight often to ensure his growth was very linear. And it was.

8 weeks - 11 lbs

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