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by VomMarischal on 12 October 2010 - 15:10

 Well Phil, that's a complicated argument. I can't very well say that my perception of PSA as non-injurious to dogs is wrong based on my lack of experience with seeing dogs injured on the field, either. I guess I'd just say that we all know that all sports, human or dog or otherwise, sometimes result in injury. I'd say that the average PSA trial totals far fewer injuries per event than the average high school football game.


hunter k-9

by hunter k-9 on 12 October 2010 - 15:10

Hope you guys can make it out. Its is a safe sport, sure stuff happens but overall its a sport. (Shit happens)
On Saturday they will have OB ( Level 1's & 2's) and Protection (Level 1's)
On Sunday the will have OB (Level 3's) and Protection (Level 2's and 3's)


by Bob McKown on 12 October 2010 - 15:10

Hunter:

         Will there be any after trial dog work going on? I,ll have both my females and Axel with me. 

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 12 October 2010 - 15:10

High school football games are "willingly" participated in by young men who know there are risks involved and injuries may result.  Going on the field with your K9 partner involves a certain amount of trust on both your parts.  Your dog is trusting  that you will take care of him/her and not allow them to deliberately become injured.  Sure injuries happen on the SchH field and I have witnessed some first hand however, the incidents are hopefully more isolated.  For example, participation in an event by 25 dogs hopefully no one or maybe 1 dog suffers an injury.  The event that I attended provided me with a lasting impression of not only the "sport" but the methods and principals of it's training where I personally witnessed "dangerous" work on no less than 10 occasions.  That to me denotes a pattern.  In MY opinion, anyone who deliberately sends their dog into a situation where the probability of injury is almost imminent, is irresponsible and not a true dog person.  But,,,,,,you do what you want.  I have amended our puppy/dog sales contract to include a mandate that if you do PSA with a puppy/dog that I have bred/owned the dog comes back to me with no refund issued.  The work is dangerous and has no place in my dog world. 

by VomMarischal on 12 October 2010 - 15:10

 Thanks, Phil, that's a response that makes sense to me. And I agree about the trust factor. Luckily, I trust my TD and decoys to always have my dog's best interests in mind. I don't know anything about other clubs yet, but I feel very secure where I am.

In our last event, no person or dog was injured in two days of trialing. It was wonderful, and our team made every effort to continually focus on safety. Otherwise, like you, I would not want to risk the dog I love so much.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 12 October 2010 - 15:10

        
             Hmmm...  I am going to research this PSA sport....However, I think I might pop in this weekend and take a look for myself...    

                                                  Deanna....:) 

                                               
                                                    

hunter k-9

by hunter k-9 on 12 October 2010 - 16:10

Bob,
I dont think they are going to have anything going on afterwards.

deathrow dogpack

by deathrow dogpack on 12 October 2010 - 17:10

i would invite anyone who wants to come on out to check it out.  hear the judges critiques.  see for yourself first hand.  form your own opinion.  come say hello to me.  meet my dog, see my kids.  see my lack of tatoos and that i have all my teeth.  i will be showing both ob and protection on saturday.  i will have the plush coated gsd.  come introduce yourself.

by VomMarischal on 12 October 2010 - 17:10

 I sure wish I had been able to get out there for the nationals....best of luck to all competitors, and I hope you will keep us updated on results.
--Jackie
www.workingk9.lefora.com

sueincc

by sueincc on 12 October 2010 - 21:10

Hi Phil:  I remember reading your previous posts about that trial you attended, I think it was one trial?  Was it very long ago?  I am not an expert on PSA, in fact I know less than nothing,  since my entire PSA  experience is pretty much limited to what I see on the Internet (you tube and various very message boards).  BUT I have a lot of friends who participate in the sport.  They are knowledgeable people who would not subject their dogs to decoys who routinely make bad catches or subject them to decoys who would routinely catch dogs in a way that would cause injury.

Do you remember that FMBB National Championship (IPO)  trial in France a couple years ago?  There was an issue with the helpers and a lot of dogs were injured (some seriously) by horrible catches.  BUT wouldn't you agree that  people would be wrong to judge the entire sport based upon that one trial?

I guess what I'm saying is I can understand your concern for the safety of dogs, but is it really fair to judge the entire sport by what you saw on that day?  Also if it occurred a while back isn't it possible whatever was going on has been improved and corrected?  After all, this is a relatively new sport, is it not?

I absolutely would love to go watch a PSA trial and hope to catch the next one that occurs in my area.  Looks like fun and a good group of people.





 


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