OT - 18 month Am Staff needs working home - Page 2

if i lived in the us i would take a look at him my question is why dont the military or poilce use pitbulls ( as they are brilliant working dogs) my brothers mates looked at pits as fighting nasty dogs untill they seen the pit i was working they loved how he could jump 5ft+ and how under control he was from that day they had so much respect for them and one of them even got one i think the lad is 16 years old and he wants to put a bh on his dog but no one will give him a chance because of his dog of choice and because he  is only a young lad very sad if you ask me jmo

I hadn't seen him yet when I asked whether he was Am Staff or APBT, but I too would take a pit bull over a lab any day :-)

I do understand that a lot of people would prefer to hear that the dog was an Am Staff over a pit bull, mostly because the Am Staff breeders did not want the dog aggression that still pops up in pit bulls who have not been bred to fight for generation after generation... Am Staffs also tend to be more "purebred" looking than most pit bulls. I know that may sound weird, but it's true. There are many pit bulls who are fine enough to look like Am Staffs, but sometimes even a well trained eye cannot tell the difference. I have been fooled a time or two ;-)
It is always good though to be 100% honest with the potential new family about the breed, even if it means them turning away a fantastic animal... Some true APBTs may never become dog aggressive, but I have owned some in the past that have become dog aggressive at 4 or 5 years old.
However, he still could be an Am Staff. He could be a throw back from a line that was never carefully culled (if memory serves me right, they used to be the same breed, but even after the split, Am Staff breeders would occasionally breed to APBTs and vice versa) Or... the owner just did't know any better... *Shrugs*

Either way I hope he gets a fantastic home! I will plaster him on my Facebook page if you'd like... Just let me know!

Stacy

VomRuiz,
     You absolutly correct in that statement,
I do understand that a lot of people would prefer to hear that the dog was an Am Staff over a pit bull, mostly because the Am Staff breeders did not want the dog aggression that still pops up in pit bulls who have not been bred to fight for generation after generation
     What I have found in my research of dogs and dog fighting situations is this, there are way to many low-lifes out there that will take these dogs, and only want to use them for fighting dogs. And for those people that would take the dog for what the breed is, which is generally very family oriented animals, most prefer a puppy as these dogs have gotten such a bad rap, due to bad people, you have to scared to take on an older dog.

     If you look at the websites of animal shelters, it is very sad to see the large numbers of pitbulls that are there, and WILL NEVER KNOW THE LOVE of being someones dog.It's really a crying shame.
     It is my opinion that anyone that uses these dogs for fighting are True Cowards, and anyone that can claim they have been to, or know of dog fighting rings without making the call to authorities is also, LOWLIFE.
     I wish you all the best of luck in finding a Good and safe home for this dog.
     

 

I agree Stacy. To be honest, most pet people don't know the difference and assume they are the same thing. I remember a case I had dog vs dog turned into dog vs human, anyway it was nothing but turned into a huge mess because it was 2 Pit Bulls. In my 3 hour deposition I lost count of the time it took to get the lawyers on both ends to understand why one paper (Vet) said Terrier X, one paper (License) said Am Staff, some other paper said Pit Bull or Pit Bull X (Can't remember) and they though these were each different dogs owned and covered up by the owner, UGH!!!!

Yes,please spread the word!

VomRuiz, sorry to correct, but it is a myth that American pit bulls have a "low" percentage of HD.

What they have is breeders who are for the most part very, very uneducated. Breeders who believe in myths like "they are fighting dogs so they can't have HD" or "my dog can jump really well, so I don't need to test  him."  As well, these are TOUGH dogs that don't complain.  I know of a SchH 3, Weight Pull "Ace" that was severely dysplastic. No one would have ever known until the dog got older. 

The fact is, American pit bulls are (sadly) ranked 26th (out of 157 reported breeds) just below Am Staffs for incident of reported HD on the OFA website. In fact, they rank worse than CHOWS, Rotties and Shiloh shepherds! : (

American pit bulls are a fad breed right now, and any breed that goes through a fad gets damaged.  Many people are crossing Am Staff with pit bull lines (all blue dogs) and breeding for nothing but color or stocky build.  It is a RARE kennel that gets health checks.  I am one of the very few kennels I know of that health check all breeding stock and breed "pure" American pit bulls.  I hope to live to see the day when there will be many more, but for now, I try and spread the word (the truth) about HD and the pit bull 

Just my 2 cents.

  no curs     

why dont they use the pitbull for military work ?? i know n some areas of the us PD's use pits and they do great with that sort of work