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by karen forbes on 22 May 2010 - 17:05

by Two Moons on 22 May 2010 - 17:05
Did I get that right?
I think it's a lot.
by karen forbes on 22 May 2010 - 18:05

by PowerHaus on 22 May 2010 - 18:05
Vickie
PowerHaus

by TIG on 22 May 2010 - 18:05
I see that you are a very new member to the board. I have sent you a PM as I may know someone who may have actually worked this bitch and if so is very qualified to tell you her capabilities.
Since you are new, can you fill us in a bit about yourself - where you are from, your experience in GSDs - how many have you woned, trained to what level etc and particularly your experience in SAR. All of these would go into commenting on a prospective purchase.
A brother of this dog was imported to the U.S. specifically for high level sport and tho young shows good potential.

by PowerHaus on 22 May 2010 - 19:05
TIG,
What is ther relevance in your questions regarding where the person is from and thier experience and how many they have owned and to what level? Why does that matter? She clearly stated she had a trainer and it appears the trainer is knowledgeable.
This is not an interogation and frankly if you asked me the same I would tell you to stuff it!
It doesn't matter, the dog is SOLD anyway. LOL
Vickie
PowerHaus

by Jenni78 on 22 May 2010 - 21:05
I think maybe if people were more willing to PAY for quality, and not just breed whatever they could get their hands on for a grand or less we might have better dogs. Just a thought.

by TIG on 23 May 2010 - 13:05
Vickie,
The question was not addressed to you. If it was you certainly could have refused to answer.
I beg to disagree, there is a relevance to my question. If you read this person's post above there are many flags that she is fairly new to the breed and not sure at all in her knowlege which suggests to me her skills may also be new and shiny or a work in progress. Why is that important?
If a similiar question was asked about a young Pike progeny years ago after he has established a reputation for producing dogs that came back up the line at their handler's don't you think the handler's experience might be relevant to recommendations about the purchase of one his progeny.
That's not the case here but thus litter was bred to produce a high level sport dog. Having met and seen the brother work and talked quite a bit about this pedigree and the dogs it produced with someone who knows AND has worked them - yes the prospective purchaser's experience and what they wish the dog to do is important.
By the way Elkoor I'm not sure what picture you were looking at but there is no way this bitch is soft in the pasterns. Now here is a picture of one that is ( very pretty girl BUT soft in the pasterns) http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/657614.html or a picture from your own dog's pedigree - a grandfather I believe http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/39899.html Open three windows side by side and look at the pasterns of each.
Finally Vickie, why do you find it funny that the dog is sold??
by beast on 23 May 2010 - 14:05
I'm not looking for another dog. I have a 2 year old and a 6 year old GSD. I'm pretty involved in dog sports - minus anything that involves bitework. I have been to many seminars and clinics regarding dog behavior and training. I practice non-aversive +R methods with my dogs, but in the past I used traditional dog training methods. It's only been about 3-4 years since I started to really focus on learning about dogs. So yes, I'm a novice in all respects. I'd like to think I've got potential though! (wouldn't we all? lol)
I do own a working line dog. He is linebred on Fero (through Troll) and is out of a pair of Salztalblick dogs. I've been told he's a fantastic example of the breed and have been slapped a few times for neutering him.
I try to do right by my dogs. So I research the breed and bloodlines whenever I can. A few members of my family are LEO's with patrol dogs. I'm also good friends with the director of our local police K9 training department. I would say I have a lot of supports within the breed (though I question them relentlessly).
I guess when I saw this bitch, my heart just stopped. Something about her made me want to jump on a plane and bring her home myself. I've been told that this kind of thing can happen, but it's only responsible for me to think with my head, not my heart. When I first posted this thread, I was pretty convinced that I was going to buy her and I was mad that someone would question the quality of my dog (even though she wasn't mine just yet). I made that decision spur of the moment. I'm now banging my head against the wall for making such an ass out of myself. If any of you knew me, you would KNOW that I have never brought a dog into my home without fully committing to it for the rest of it's days. I take dog ownership seriously and always try to do right by my dogs. What I did the other day was juvenile - at best and I truly do apologize for subjecting this board to my immaturity.
I hope this little beauty has found a wonderful home who'll give her a job and a comfy bed to sleep in at night.
I really am sorry for wasting everyones time. I'm never going to hear the end of this from my family and friends.
TIG, I'll PM you later. I still have some questions about this (and similar) dogs. Though I'm not looking for a dog now, I will be in a few years and would like to know more about what I'm looking at. My knowledge on genetics is about as limited as it gets. I have a few "favorites" and I know an obviously good pedigree when I see one (I think..). But that's about it.
Thanks for your patience,
Beast!

by steve1 on 23 May 2010 - 15:05
You certainly have nothing to apologize here for, Think with your head and go by your Gut Instinct, you will not go too far wrong
Steve1
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