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by Mindhunt on 09 March 2010 - 02:03
I'll give it a try, my internet is showing me the video in fits and starts so I am not seeing a smooth video (I know, excuses).
Some indecision in the dog, he does what my son calls "bustin a move" (backs up, comes forward, backs up, comes forward), his ears are up and forward so he is intensely focused, he is watching behind the camera although he is still keeping some of his attention on the camera. His neutral tail set and the wagging in the beginning changes to a little more upright set, but it is difficult to see in the cab of the truck. He is definately feeling pressured toward the end, after the whine, and becomes a little more agitated and his bark changes. Not a dog I would walk up to and say hi if he was barking like that.
Some indecision in the dog, he does what my son calls "bustin a move" (backs up, comes forward, backs up, comes forward), his ears are up and forward so he is intensely focused, he is watching behind the camera although he is still keeping some of his attention on the camera. His neutral tail set and the wagging in the beginning changes to a little more upright set, but it is difficult to see in the cab of the truck. He is definately feeling pressured toward the end, after the whine, and becomes a little more agitated and his bark changes. Not a dog I would walk up to and say hi if he was barking like that.
by Bob McKown on 09 March 2010 - 02:03
I,m waiting for the REAL DOG trainer Held to show up, He will set us all straight.

by Jenni78 on 09 March 2010 - 02:03
Dar is your dog, right Lav? Were you filming? He looks a bit confused, as if he's looking for you (or his handler, if not you) to give him some direction. I don't think this is something the dog has done alot of, as he doesn't seem that comfortable (meaning conditioned, not that the dog is totally freaked out or anything). He goes back and forth making me think there was someone supposed to be agitating him and then someone filming. He doesn't get the direction he's looking for, so that adds to the slight confusion.
I maintain that I would not stick my hand in the car, and he is not playing. Not quite sure what he's supposed to be doing, perhaps, but not playing.
Tail wagging simply means a dog is comfortable in the situation, not that he is friendly! And much depends on the set of the tail and the speed! Read the overall picture; don't get lost in details.
I sure wish I could watch it as streaming video instead of 2 seconds here and there while my damn internet catches up. ARGH.
I maintain that I would not stick my hand in the car, and he is not playing. Not quite sure what he's supposed to be doing, perhaps, but not playing.
Tail wagging simply means a dog is comfortable in the situation, not that he is friendly! And much depends on the set of the tail and the speed! Read the overall picture; don't get lost in details.
I sure wish I could watch it as streaming video instead of 2 seconds here and there while my damn internet catches up. ARGH.

by Slamdunc on 09 March 2010 - 02:03
I'll add my 2 cents, FWIW. It appears to me that someone, perhaps the camera person is acting "suspicious" to the dog or a third person to the right of the camera person. It also seems that the handler is on the camera person's left side and comes into view of the dog at around 7 or 8 seconds into the video. You can clearly see the dog, (for those of us with hi speed Internet) look at a familiar person to the left of the camera person. Hence the whine. The dog appears to be a little confused, I'll speculate that he knows the person agitating him. I'm reading a lot into 15 seconds of video.
The tail wag is mid height, not low and not high. This says to me: "watch out, I'll bite you." I'm surprised he doesn't come out the window. He's either had lots of training to stay in the car, or the "agitator" is not pushing him very hard, again just being "suspicious". He does appear to be a little confused and is not clear on whether to really "go off" on the camera person or just guard the car and bark. I think if pushed he would bite, but I think he'd really rather not for some reason.
I'll wait for Lauren to fill us in.
JMO FWIW,
Jim
The tail wag is mid height, not low and not high. This says to me: "watch out, I'll bite you." I'm surprised he doesn't come out the window. He's either had lots of training to stay in the car, or the "agitator" is not pushing him very hard, again just being "suspicious". He does appear to be a little confused and is not clear on whether to really "go off" on the camera person or just guard the car and bark. I think if pushed he would bite, but I think he'd really rather not for some reason.
I'll wait for Lauren to fill us in.
JMO FWIW,
Jim
by tntk9 on 09 March 2010 - 03:03
definatly not a serious dog. i wouldnt reach in to pet it but if you wanted in just open the doors and show some presence and the dog will be gone looking for its handler, toy,or, a hot dog.
It looks like a young dog and might get better as it matures but it is a short vid. so its hard to tell.
jmo.
It looks like a young dog and might get better as it matures but it is a short vid. so its hard to tell.
jmo.

by Rugers Guru on 09 March 2010 - 04:03
Has he ever seen a horse before? I am grasping, but maybe your on/holding a horse and he has never seen one before..... Ruger acted the EXACT same when I brought the goats home.
by ObedienceStar on 09 March 2010 - 04:03
PLEASE DADDY PLEASE! I REALLY GOTTA WEE WEE!

by steve1 on 09 March 2010 - 09:03
I see nothing sinister in his actions the way his head it moving from left to right i think he is barking at a small wild animal or bird, He is just not sure of what is going on and showing an interest at what he can see
Bob Yes, i guess Held will put us all to rights as usual as he is the Master at reading a Dogs posture and attitude
and did you Guys notice the Dogs ears did not go back, just flick as if interested in something it was not used to seeing in its normal daily life
Steve1
Bob Yes, i guess Held will put us all to rights as usual as he is the Master at reading a Dogs posture and attitude
and did you Guys notice the Dogs ears did not go back, just flick as if interested in something it was not used to seeing in its normal daily life
Steve1

by Jenni78 on 09 March 2010 - 10:03
Jim, there you go agreeing with me again. But you've gotten clever-posting at the same time so it looks all simultaneous and stuff...
I think some of you need to get it out of your heads that a dog won't bite in any style but a sport fashion. But, if you've never trained for any other type bite, or never trained bitework in any way but building in prey/play, then the precursors to a bite won't be that obvious to you.
I think some of you need to get it out of your heads that a dog won't bite in any style but a sport fashion. But, if you've never trained for any other type bite, or never trained bitework in any way but building in prey/play, then the precursors to a bite won't be that obvious to you.

by Slamdunc on 09 March 2010 - 17:03
Jenni,
Your are really catching on. You certainly are a smart young lady.
Bob,
LMAO. You don't miss a beat.
tntk9,
I don't think he is that young of a dog, my guess would be 4 or 5 at least.
Jim
Your are really catching on. You certainly are a smart young lady.

Bob,
LMAO. You don't miss a beat.
tntk9,
I don't think he is that young of a dog, my guess would be 4 or 5 at least.
Jim
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