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rocknrolla

by rocknrolla on 26 December 2009 - 14:12

I have an idea  why don't you be a man and the next time the Rottie owner gives you some lip use your claw hand upside his head. if the son joins in give him the claw. you said the rottie attacked the little dog. so what happened? did the rottie kill it or hurt it bad? did you use the claw? first the rottie is a killer then it is fearful outside its yard. so which is it? does your claw have all the dogs in the neighborhood fearful? Is the rottie owner prepared for the claw?  did you ever stop to think it wasn't the rottie that made the woman run from her mailbox? it was probably that she was fearful of the claw.


GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 26 December 2009 - 15:12

lol rocknrolla.    The Rottie is fearful of people outside the fence.........small dogs are targets for it.  It hurt the dog, not killing it, but hurt it badly.  To the rest of your post.........eh, no comment......

rocknrolla

by rocknrolla on 26 December 2009 - 15:12

who got the rottie off the small dog?  did the owners of the small dog ever show up? by hurt badly was the small dog in shock or losing lots of blood?  will the claw ever take revenge?

by hodie on 26 December 2009 - 15:12

The point of rocknrolla GSDguy08 is well taken. You are not terribly consistent in what you are saying here. The bottom line is that IF this rottie already hurt a small dog, I cannot imagine that Animal Control or the police were not already involved in some way. If so, that makes your concerns just an additional complaint against the dog owner. The authorities should be involved if any part of what you say is not simply your dislike of the owner and dog. As well, you will have to appreciate that not everyone will think you are nice, or a dog expert or trainer or whatever, so don't count on trying to make sense to someone else. IF the rottie is really a threat, then the authorities need to deal with this problem. In the meantime, common sense, again, would suggest that YOU avoid a problem, especially one that could potentially cause you or one of your dogs injury. It sounds like you think you can take care of yourself, but that is a dangerous attitude to hold in my opinion. If you have the experience you say you do, then you know just how difficult it could be to break up a dog fight, and you also should know how dangerous that could be to you trying to do so. Why not simply go elsewhere for the moment while the authorities deal with the rottie and owner? No one here will think less of you for using your head........

by eichenluft on 26 December 2009 - 17:12

IMO you need to take control of the situation, since the dogs' owner is not in control of his dog.  Fenced yard or no fence doesn't matter if the dog escapes, jumps the fence or is otherwise loose.  If the dog is aggressive, then it is a loose dangerous dog.  It could hurt or kill another dog, and in the process bite a person trying to separate or control the dog.  The dogs' OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DOG.  He either does something about it - get rid of the dog, keep the dog in the house unless supervised/on leash/on chain - or puts up a fence that will keep the dog contained.  If he refuses to contain/control his dangerous dog - then he loses the dog.  For me there is no other alternative. 

Taking another route or avoiding the area - why????  The road/sidewalk/everything outside the fence is public domain.  You can walk your dogs, run, drive, park, or even train your dogs on the road/sidewalk in front of his house - yes it might be "rude" to do some of these things but it is your right to do it.  Just as it would be his right to walk by your house as long as he stayed off your property.  He does not have a right to keep a dangerous dog if the dog cannot be controlled/contained 100% of the time.

I would call animal control and/or police right away and make a report about this dog jumping the fence and attacking a small dog.  Have it on record.  Possibly the animal control officer can go to the guy's home and give him a warning.  Then if/when this happens again, call the police and have them take care of the situation.  Most states have a leash/containment law - dogs are not allowed to be loose off the owners' property let alone be loose and aggressive.  Dogs are not allowed to attack other pets or humans on or off the owners property.  It is law in most states, up to you to do something about it.
  I certainly would.
molly

4pack

by 4pack on 26 December 2009 - 17:12

I agree with Baugh and Molly. My daughter was a victim of a dog attack because people tried to just let something go or deal with the neighbors/dog themselves, by avoiding the area or taking a stick to protect themselves on walks. We were just visiting and NEVER knew this neighbor dog existed. If the neighbors had gotten AC involved long before, (dog had attacked 2 dogs, incruing vet bills and at least bit 1 person in the knee) chances are, my daughter wouldn't have had to get bit. The attack on my daughter was the first call to AC for the dog and nothing was done. The dog was left in home quarenteen for 10 days, still chained in a fenceless yard. Too late for my daughter, who still bares the scars and the dog was still a danger to the neighborhood when we left town.

That Rott needs to be reported to AC each and every time it's off it's property or causes a problem. If AC doesn't step in, I'd shoot the damn thing myself if it was my neighborhood. For now, take your cell phone when you walk and take pictures of the dog jumping the fence or outsde the fence, to prove it is really happening. Take a cattle prod with you on your walks if need be, to keep your dogs and yourself safe. If your smart, you'll have a concealed weapons permit and use the right!

It really burns me when owners like this, own this type of dog and do nothing. They don't deserve a pet and the dog is the one who will suffer but don't feel sorry for the dog, think about the next guy/gal/kid/small dog that might walk by unprepaired. Your just as guilty as the owner who turns his head, if you do nothing and someone else pays the price.

by 1doggie2 on 26 December 2009 - 18:12

hodie and most of the people on this board are trying to tell you something. Just because you do not want to be inconvienced, this is going to lead to very large vet bills and possibly an emergency trip to hospital for you. I have a very good rottie, well trained and tolerant of other dogs. However, he is not willing to allow another dog, not to follow the same rules of behaviour, and will defend himself with an all out WAR. I broke up a fight, I now have life long injury to my back. So I am telling you from experiance, breaking up dog fights is dangerous to your dogs and you. Given the choice, I would load them in the car and take them for a walk far away from this "going to happen" "only a mattter of time". I also do not care how much you work with this dog, unless the owner is willing to put the time in and get with the program, it is still going to happen.  Also everytime this dog jumps the fence and bullies a small dog, it is going to give it confidence and will soon be taking on a larger one.
It is a shame the owner does not have control of the dog and leashed it up and went with you for a walk and took the opportunity to work it. Since that is not going to happen get your head out of the sand and be safe.

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 26 December 2009 - 19:12

That dog that I cant stand that I mentioned in m post was back in my yard today because it seems that someone has cut a hole in my fence for the dog to go in and out of. My God what is wrong with people. The dogs were barking and I got up to correct them only to find that damn dog in my yard. I let the dogs out and saw that someone has cut my chain link big enough so their dog can fit through it. I can only guess why someone would do this. Now I get to figure out how to fix the fence. I had to file another complaint with animal control so just in case the dog is killed by my dogs, Ill have on record that this has been ongoing. Good thing IM not dealing with a rott or else the dog would have been invited into the yard so animal control would have come to get it.

by IanZane on 27 December 2009 - 18:12

I had an instance where a neighbors pit bull got off his chain(had happened about 3 times before)and came on my property got in to the fenced in yard while I had all my dogs out and attacked my male GSD locked on to the right side of his head and lower jaw could not get Pitt of of him fight went on for twenty minutes(no exaggerating may have been longer) or more while all me other dogs were attacking assailant pit protecting there pack member attacking his head I broke a shit rake over this dogs back three times and would not unlock from my male GSD head finally II grabbed the pit by the tail and dragged him still attached to my gsd's head to, while dragging both of them in to a outdoor pen and beet the pit in the head with pen door at least ten times before he would release me gsd and as soon as he did I grabbed his tail while pulling him back with one hand and shutting kennel door with a norther hand and shut my self in with this dog took me a couple of seconds to realize how stupid that was just thinking of the dogs safety first! Got out of the pen and checked on my male GSD injury's were extensive drove down the road to pit owners home and informed them of said incident, they did't even want to come and get there dog making excuses until I yelled HE'S HURT TO!!!! They then agreed and came and picked him up the pen he was in was blood red with chunks of tissue and skin every were. I then loaded my GSD up and took him to vet injures were extensive didn't know if could even be fixed at first. (Vet bills were very expensive and a very long recovery for me poor boy)When I returned home went to Pitts owners house and informed them that I would not sew them BUT IF PITT EVER CAME ON PROPERTY AGAIN I WOULD KILL IT !!! Some dog owners are not responsible and to many have dogs that are far to much for them to handle. They tie them up or fence them in with no activities and tension of lack of exercise or boredom causes aggression it is a dangerous thing dogs that have the capability to do this kind of damage in the hands of LAZY IDIOTS that just want them for statues(stay out of my yard dogs) I drive by that Pitt every day and feel nothing but pity for him. Anyway the point of my story is you here horror stories about Pitts(and would like to say I harbor no ill will toward this breed they are no different then any other breed accept that they fight different) Pitts and rotts have the highest bite  force pressure (as all bulldog and mastiff type breeds do)So follow Molly's advice above but be very vigilant in your walks maybe even carry a gun were I live the HO tells you if you feel the dog is dangerous(vicious dog) shoot it!!! If it is out of owners yard or owner can not control hope everthing works out for you I wouldn't walk the other way for a lazy idiots sake either If they would start walking there own dog with neighbors there rott would start to enjoy seeing you and your dogs coming because he would know he was getting out of jail for a walk too!!!





 


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