My City Passed Mandatory S/N - Page 2

I caution people to read all the fine print before  trying to buck the system by not licensing their dogs.  In some cities, being caught with an unlicensed dog is grounds for not issuing that dog a spay/neuter exemption.  Your protest might result in your dog being altered.   I am only saying if you want to stand your ground, be aware of the possible consequences.

You're lucky.  They'll be there.  Besides, they often come when you're not home.  So you've most likely been checked out and you don't even know it.

Get involved with groups dealing with MSN legislation.  Particularly in VA; they've had some bad problems.  Also look up information on the seizure of the Murder Hollow Basset Hound pack in Philadelphia, PA.  These are hunting hounds that were seized - no one knows where they are to this day - and in typical AR fashion, the humane society talks about their being in "deplorable" condition so they had to grab them.  Well, this time they grabbed hounds that many people knew and saw out hunting routinely, so there are MANY people who saw these hounds often and know that they happen to be in excellent condition and the humane society is simply lying - it's routine to say any seized animals are in bad shape.  They just got caught with their pants down this time, as these active dogs had been seen and photographed out hunting by a lot of people. 

How about the woman in Bakersfield, CA who got increasingly threatening letters from the ARs in power because PEEKING THROUGH HER WINDOWS AND DOORS THEY SEE A DOG NOT WEARING A LICENSE.  It happens to be a stuffed toy dog, but the nosy peekers can't see that well, so the threatening letters continue.

If you don't think these people are peeking and prying, you are willfully naive. 

There are many of us actively involved in animal welfare.  We KNOW what our local humane societies are doing.  We see them, we talk with them, we KNOW they're poking around peoples' property when they leave for work.  We read the details of proposed legislation and see that the law says that once you have these "permits" you must and will be inspected whenever the authorities want to inspect you.

"We read the details of proposed legislation and see that the law says that once you have these "permits" you must and will be inspected whenever the authorities want to inspect you."

I must be missing that part:

Sec. 15-2.1-1-23. Sterilization of dogs and cats required; breeder's permit.
(a) Each dog and cat over the age of six months which is kept in the county shall have been sterilized and rendered incapable of reproducing by a licensed veterinarian, unless a veterinarian has certified in writing that it would not be in the animal's best medical interest, but in no case later than when that excepted animal attains the age of nine months. It shall be unlawful for a person to own a dog or a cat not in compliance with this section and for which the owner does not have a current and valid intact breeder's permit. A violation of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than $100.00.
(b) A breeder's permit shall be obtained by the following:
(1) Any person who intentionally causes or accidentally allows the breeding of a dog or cat available for breeding purposes;
(2) Any person who offers for sale, sells, trades, receives other compensation, or gives away any litter of dogs or cats;
(3) Any owner or person having custody of a dog or cat that has delivered a litter or caused the delivery of a litter;
(4) Any person owning or having custody of a dog or cat which is older than six months of age, which has not been sterilized and for which the person owning or having custody of such an animal does not have a written certification from a licensed veterinarian stating that it is not in such animal's best medical interest to be sterilized, but in no case after the dog or cat has attained the age of nine months.
(c) Such breeder's permit shall:
(1) Allow the nonsterilization of animals owned by the permittee for one 12-month period after the date of issuance and the birthing of a maximum of one litter in a 12-month period in his or any domestic household or establishment or any combination thereof;
(2) Not allow the owner to offer for sale, sell, trade, or receive other compensation or give away more than one litter of dogs or cats in such 12-month period;
(3) Require the holder of the permit to furnish the division of animal control with information on the birth of each litter of dogs and cats as may be required by the division to register the litter and be assigned a letter number for each litter.
(d) The holder of a breeder's permit shall:
(1) Transmit to the new owner or buyer the litter number of the animal acquired and the breeder's permit number in order that the new owner has assurance and proof that the animal was legally bred;
(2) Immunize all dogs and cats offered for sale, trade, or other compensation or for free give away against the most common contagious diseases; for dogs against canine distemper, hepatitis, Para influenza, and parvo virus and for cats against feline rhinotracheitis, calicivirus, and panleucopenia;
(3) Not offer a puppy or kitten under the age of eight weeks for sale, trade or other compensation or for free giveaway;
(4) Furnish a warrant of health for a period of not less than one week with the recommendation to have the animal examined by a licensed veterinarian for each animal sold, traded, or given away.
(e) Each breeder's permit shall be obtained from the division of animal control or the county sheriff's department.
(f) Each holder of a valid breeder's permit shall register additional litters with the division of animal control. Each additional litter registration shall comply with the same requirements as the original breeder's permit. Failure to register each litter shall be considered a violation of this section and shall be punished by a fine of not less than $100.00.

20/20's John Stossel did a very interesting expose centering around a Texas SPCA officer who was granted police powers, among other powers, and how he abused them.  If I remember correctly, it took a national news organization to expose this guy for what he was, bring him down,  and to allow people to reclaim their animals, but by that time, many of their animals were gone.   You can read the transcrips from the "Give me a Break episode here:
 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=817494&page=1

I wasn't suggesting that there aren't abuses in the system, only that I don't think the intent of S/N legislation is to gain access to your property because they can pretty much fabricate a reason to do so already even if you don't have a dog.

Thanks for the advice everyone. My husband said that if we see people peeking and snooping around we will turn on the sprinklers LOL

I'm trying not to take it personally, it still feels like getting my rights violated (I DO know that owning pets is a privledge, but still, I feel that the ones who get caught breeding irresponsibly and/or are dumping a litter or two of puppies/kittens off at the shelter every year are the ones who should be penalized.)
I'm a groomer at a store that has adoptions every weekend. They have at least 50 dogs every single weekend out there. I am aware of the population problem in my city alone.

Hopefully though I will be moving before April. If not I willl to whatever I can to stay in good standing with the city.

Thanks all!
Stacy

good point, Keith.

Yes, VomRuiz, unfortunately laws like these are a by-product of our society and lack of a sense of civic responsibility.

I lived in Germany for several years and it wasn't uncommon to be driving through a small town somewhere and see a little old lady out sweeping the street in front of her house.  When everyone does so, the end result is a clean street.  Contrast that to what we see here...when someone cuts his grass, he gets out his blower and blows the debris from his driveway into the street.

It works the same way with animals.  I visited an animal shelter in Germany once and it was mostly empty even while it was (at the time at least...probably still is) against the law to euthanize an otherwise healthy animal.  They are able to accomplish this because people who breed take that responsibility very seriously, those who aren't planning to breed have their animals spayed or neutered and virtually no one allows his/her animals to wander at large.  Like dirty streets, Germans see pet overpopulation as completely preventable if everyone in their society does his/her part.

Good example Keith about how German citizens behave. It is like this too in many other countries in the world. Unfortunately, in the US, all too many think every problem is someone else's responsibility, or expect those hired to do the job. But of course, no one wants to pay for anything. In our society, it is all about "give me" and all too rarely about "let me help". This is one of the fundamental changes in our society that will contribute to bringing us down. There are others, of course.

I am always interested to see hundreds of Afghani children, for example, pleading for a chance to attend school or get a pencil from someone. The students I see all too often don't give a damn about going to school, screw around in class, have parents who could care less, and leave their schools pig-pens. I could go on with other examples, but, like Moons, I am loosing my enthusiasm too to try to change that which cannot be changed because there are not enough people anymore who give a shit about anything.