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by Uglydog on 29 July 2009 - 17:07
My apologies than. Your tone was antagonistic. I responded in kind.
What the GSD NEEDS, is Far more than I or you can offer.
It needs a NEW Collective, Guild If you will, of like minded people who will NOT Compromise about the GSD, its standard and working ability. It was set forth by Max and that should be honored.
Sport Competition Ruins Dogs. Max said it himself. SchH needs a NEW Working test, for Working Dogs. Make it Pass/Fail, no Points and reintroduce the test of old (Scaled jumps, Hits, Gunfire etc), or similiar to it. Bring back the breed warden, Ban all of those that dont follow Strict procedure. Simple.
Germany still does this with their hunting Breeds..ie Drahthaars, Pudelpointers, Kurzharrs Jagds and Dachshunds via The Breed Clubs. The GSD Needs a new Steward. Status quo is unacceptable.
'Breeding in quantities must always become a curse to the breeder, because it leads him along the wrong path and deprives him of all real joy in his breeding. Finally, it leads - and this is a further and very real danger for breeder and for the race - to breeding for business considerations only.
It follows from the name, that this has nothing more to do with the dog-lover, or with the utility of the dog-race, and not even with SPORT, which indeed has only been too often advanced as a cloak for such practices. -Max
"The breeding of shepherd dogs is the breeding of working dogs; and this must always be the aim, or we shall cease to produce shepherd dogs' -Max
In order to have any chances of success at Exhibitions, breeding must be effected on a large scale; which can only be done in a regular Kennel. But breeding on a large scale and in a Kennel is the ruin of all sound shepherd dog breeding.
-Max
by Sifl and Olly on 03 August 2009 - 05:08
by Sam Spade on 03 August 2009 - 13:08

by habanaro on 03 August 2009 - 14:08
Two clubs i belong to dues are $200 per year for full member $100 for associate member. no training fee per session. that is probably at the lower end of the spectrum for cost to belong to a club. Another club near me the dues are $400 per year if you dont belong to the club they charge a fee of $20 per dog to work your dog. I am not a member there but I periodacally will go over ther and get a dog worked or two. That club has some higher expenses and that is passed on to the club members. It really depends where in the country you are and what the clubs expenses are in central Ill were pretty lucky in that regard.

by sueincc on 03 August 2009 - 14:08
Ugly: No where did he say schutzhund trials are the ruination of the breed. You had a very bad experience with one person, one club, you got mad because the organization didn't do what you wanted, and now you take every opportunity to bad mouth the entire organization.

by Liesjers on 03 August 2009 - 15:08
by happyday on 03 August 2009 - 15:08
We don't have alot of over head at our club - so our fee's are a one time join of 100 and 20 a month - of course our president cuts the grass....
just curious - Uglydog - you belong to my club? your gripe seems very familiar.....lol
Happyday.

by Rik on 04 August 2009 - 02:08
Seemed reasonable to me.
Rik
by happyday on 04 August 2009 - 02:08
Rik - - you are a member of my club...lol. where have you been in the last week- rain or shine - we train.....get your rain suite on and get to the club man....
Happyday.

by Rik on 04 August 2009 - 03:08
I turned around at the half way mark because of the storm Thursday night.
Sat. is also bad weather. Look for me tues. rain or shine.
I am coming there and then taking my bitch to the BOTC @ 7:30 for the AKC handling class.
Also, please tell me who the h*ll you are. You know that I am new to this.
Have you been scooping up the tomatoes and peppers that I bring.

Rik
Edit to add. I suspect that you are "MARK".

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