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by Louise M. Penery on 27 June 2009 - 03:06
While I can't speak for Hodie, I will admit that I rarely post on this or any other forum. During the past 6-12 months, the PDB has become somewhat of a "soap opera"--JMHO.
When it comes posting on boards, I'm a "meat and potato" person--I thrive on something of substance. If I want to communicate with a poster, I've grown to do so via PM, private email, or telephone call.
Last fall, I was hounded from one of those boards of color because I dared to name names of dogs and people (by inference)--this was not a matter of hearsay, libel, or slander. For example, if a dog (identified by an OP by its registered kennel name) is confirmed to be EPI positive, it is not difficult to do a pedigree search here on the PDB and conclude that both parents of the affected dog are very likely to be EPI carriers.
hexe: IOW, when it comes to figuring out the source of the 'hoofbeats', the von Willebrand's would be a horse, while everything else would fall into zebra territory.
In my reply to Sunsilver's post, I had considered either an hereditary or acquired coagulopathy. Based more on my personal annecdotal experience, iatragenic internal hemorrhage sequelae such as what I outlined above as the "hoofbeats" are more likely (for me) to be those of a "horse" rather than a "zebra".
When it comes to surgery and anesthesia with my own dogs, I prefer to have a pre-op CBC/chemistry and IV catheter/fluids. IMO, the veterinarian need not conclude his clients to be the lowest common denominator if he were to charge realistic fees for these safeguard measures. For example, a liter of LRS, an IV catheter/placement, and a fluid administration set are unlikely to cost the vet more than $15!
by sueincc on 27 June 2009 - 03:06
by Kalibeck on 27 June 2009 - 03:06
by Sunsilver on 27 June 2009 - 05:06
I'm willing to travel for good medical care. I used to drive half an hour to see my G.P.
BTW, thank goodness for the abx tablets. I noticed Star panting a lot, and took her temp. It's up to 103 F. Not waiting for the morning to start those tablets, like the vet suggested! She's getitgn one right now.
Louise, yes, the board has been pretty soap-operish lately, and not a lot of substance. I was glad I had other contacts who got back to me far more quickly than any of the posters here did. I had three breeders and a registered nurse tell me the vet had missed a bleeder, and needed to go in and fix it. You said the same. Two of the breeders have been raising dogs their whole lives, and are in their senior years.
You think he MIGHT have been wrong?
DUH!
by Ryanhaus on 27 June 2009 - 06:06
WOW Sunsilver,
Just goes to show, who better knows their dog & can tell when something is not right, the vet should be listening more to the person that knows the dog well.
The surgery should have been a bit more on the routine side if she has never had pups,
Time to find your girl another vet, sure hope she gets well quick, that's one thing about dogs, they heal very quickly,
their bodies make extra vitamin C to help heal in cases like this, another lesson learned today.
by hexe on 27 June 2009 - 06:06
Sunsilver, glad to hear you were persistant and Star got the attention she so clearly needed. It's up to us to be active, informed participants in the health care of both ourselves and our animal charges.
Louise Penery: In my reply to Sunsilver's post, I had considered either an hereditary or acquired coagulopathy. Based more on my personal annecdotal experience, iatragenic internal hemorrhage sequelae such as what I outlined above as the "hoofbeats" are more likely (for me) to be those of a "horse" rather than a "zebra".
I couldn't agree more, Louise--that was my first thought as well, and you'd already covered it thoroughly. In case nothing was found as far as slipped or loose ligatures when the vet opened Star back up, then I wanted Sunsilver to have some differentials readily in mind. My 'hoofbeats' comment was in reference only to the coagulation disorders I mentioned--of all of *those* potential issues, I would only consider the vWD to fall into the 'horse' category.
Hope life is treating you well, and your boys are continuing to thrive. :)
by Sunsilver on 27 June 2009 - 15:06
He may be neutered, but boys will be boys...
by DebiSue on 27 June 2009 - 18:06
Deb
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