Little Maya Needs Some Help - Page 2

Bob,
That is great if that's what you think, but, you are making this assumption from an ignorant point of view. I am not implying that you are ignorant, but, that you are unfamiliar with the situation. I am sure that the people running that rescue and the veterinarians involved are capable of determining what is best for the puppy.

Red Sable,
Sorry if you're upset. So am I.

OGBS:

Ignorance is thinking you can save them all.

I,m a realist, I can afford to use funds on a crippelled animal no matter how much my heart goes out I,ve seen the recipeants of these types of surgey it,s a short term fix on a dog that can live 10 plus years no matter what a vet tells you big vet bils for who ever takes this pup in. When so many strays and abbandoned dogs are piling up fatser then ever it,s a shame this fellow got the short end of the stick but I would not prolong his pain and torture because i,m a frail human and can,t look at the big picture.

I do hope this turns out well he is a cute fellow. 

Bob,
Ignorance is posting what you think others believe when you have no reference to those beliefs.
Ignorance is also posting about a puppy's pain and torture when there is none.
As it states in the link from the rescue, "She is in no pain..."
Maybe a few people need to go back and learn how to read. A part of reading is also comprehending what you have read.
All basic stuff from that you were supposed to learn back in grade school.
While you may not feel that your funds are well spent on a particular dog/puppy that does not mean others must believe what you do. You are a breeder. You choose to make money breeding and selling. That in itself puts you in a particular category. What that category is, again, depends on the individual.

I do agree with you that I hope all turns out well for this little girl.

OGBS:

NOW i,m pissed you idiot,

 Guess what out of the 2 litters I,ve ever breed most were given FREE of charge, and are working or enjoying good homes I don,t breed to make money I breed to get a dog when I need one for myself and never till I know they can all be placed. So when running your foul mouth on a open web site, suck your teeth back and think before you type!! coward!

If you think preforming this type of surgery on a pup isn,t painful your living in fanatsy land, not to mention as she grows and her body and bones expand surgically reformed areas don,t keep up, and I,ll give you a million dollars that if in no more then 2 years this pup will have to be on anti inflamitories for the rest of it,s life if it makes to to years with out whiich I highly doubt .

I,m not asking anyone to believe as I do I simply stated my opinion.

Oh my opinion is you need to appoligize to Moons and Red sable because you are the one with the foul ignorant mouth...

 

  

OGBS
You think about animals who have big problems like this little Pup the wrong way, What you should be thinking is of the new owner who may take this Pup on board, it is certain that in time this Pup will probably have other things wrong quite possibly effects from the problems it has now as it grows up for it is the owner who will also suffer in the long run, The kindest way is for it to sleep,and saying this is not easy for only a few months ago i had to make the same decision on my own injured Pup Heidi, Yes she would have lived but as time went by she would get worse, and in time would have been paralyzed,
Me i could have kept her going but we do not think of what we want but what is kindest to the Pup,
Now i have seen People mangled beyond recognition many times i have held them trying to keep them alive, but none affected me so much when i had to have that Pup put down and still now i think did i do right by her, but i know it was for the best, we cannot save everything no matter how we want to, This Pup should have been put to rest long before this stage in its life
Steve

Gee Bob,
I'll cry myself to sleep in my pillow for you tonight.
It appears that we also agree that we don't like others making personal assumptions about us. I also agree that, at times,  I have a foul mouth and I don't care if you like it or not. As for being a coward, I think that you are proving yourself to be one. You know, give up and quit when the going gets tough. Wouldn't want to extend yourself and make a difference.
If and when you can show me that you have more knowledge and expertise than a board certified veterinary othopedist I'll start to take your opinion on this pup in to consideration. Until then, as I stated before, I think that it is up to the rescue caring for the pup and the veterinarians to decide what is best for her.

As Red Sable said:
"If you are going to post something on a bulletin board, be prepared for opinions that differ from yours."

Steve1,
I understand your thinking and I also understand Bob's. I do not have a problem with that. I do have a problem with people saying that I was trying to scam someone when all I was trying to do was pass along some info from another rescue so that, maybe, this pup could possibly get a better chance at life. I also have a problem with people posting what they assume I am thinking when they have no reference. Bob did that to me and I wrongly made an assumption about his breeding program. We were both wrong!
The rescue, if they ever adopt the pup to someone, will fully disclose all of the medical history of this puppy. It is up to the potential adopter if they want to bring this puppy in to their life with all of the potential problems it could face. We do not know what the outcome is. Maya could go on to live a very happy life with someone. My belief is that the rescue and the veterinarians believe she could have a normal life. Not every dog has to be perfect. Not every person that owns a dog is looking for a competition dog.Most people just want a companion to spend their free time with. Some are quite happy with imperfections, and, to whatever degree. 

I am very sorry to hear about your pup Heidi. I am sure that you made the best decision for her.

OGBS:

                 When you stop hiding behind a cuttie pie screen name talk to me about standing up for your opinion.

Your the one who has been jumping to conclusions, Oh by the way my mother bought a dog with a malformation in the hip socket(against my better judgemant but she is my mother what am i to do) bascally non existant (sound familiar?) oh the vet said no problem pup will be fine this surgery is done all the time Mom loves the young dog and shells out around 1500.00 dollars as the pup grows and expands guess what well he is walking funny because as he has grown the surgery will need to relieved some scar tissue and arthirtic acccourance that has developed so now we have awomen who is completly attached to this dog long story short after the 2nd surgery and a life full of pain meds and anti inflamitories the dog finally got put down at 6 years of age so again you ASSume from a wrong point of view... You would never make it on a farm cause you would name all the little piggies and chikkies and cowies and then have to eat them!!!

If someone wants to adopt this pup with full disclouser(wink wink nod nod) thats cool.But any honest Vet is going to tell the cold hard facts along with all the sunshine. and in the long run who is hurting the worst.


  

"Maya's right hip joint is completely out-of-socket. She is in no pain, but has trouble running and doing normal puppy activities. We assume that Maya was born with this defect. We took her to see an orthopedic surgeon who took X-Rays and informed us that Maya will need to undergo a complex operation to fix her hip joint."

This fundraiser is to cover that operation cost. Maya will have to undergo Femoral Head Ostectomy (FHO) surgery, to remove the head of her femur bone, followed by a JPS (Juvenile Pubic Symphysiodesis), which will graft cartilage from her left hip and place it on her newly operated right hip to help support it. "

This is what stood out for me when I read this.  NOW she is in no pain, she maybe can't do a six foot jump, but she seems relatively happy.  The operation is complex. 
Why not just leave the little girl alone? Is she not adoptable?  Is that the problem?  You said yourself  someone would be happy with a dog with imperfections, so why not leave her be?  Or put her out of her misery.

   Bob sounds like he knows what he is talking about when it comes to these operations, and he makes alot of sense. What about her future? Have they got examples of other pups that have had this problem and have had happy lives after this surgery, that is what' I'd be asking.

 Again, this is my opinion, for all it's worth, could be worth nothing.

WOW,
My ears have been ringing all day, now I know why.
OGBS you definitely did not make a very good impression did you.
I don't care where anyone spends their money.   I do know that Internet ads like the one you posted take in a lot of money that does not make its way to the animals and thats my point about rescues.
Not for profit does not mean that people are doing anything for free does it.  I'm sure they eat well.
From Missouri to Illinois, how does that work?

The scam is using this little unfortunate puppy to solicit donations thru the Internet, those are Peta tactics and I find it distasteful and corrupt.   The puppy may or may not have been better off put down I don't know, but if these vets and surgeons really had a passion for saving animals why then do they need 700 bucks.

Anyway you expressed your opinion and I amoung others have expressed theirs, so whats your problem.
You wouldn't happen to know how much moneys in my checking account would you?   Seemed like you were standing in my shoes for a second there.  
I really posted 4402 times?    Wow, now its 4403 times.  LOL... 
I'm glad you came back to discuss it, its a forum ya know.  Ads have a section of their own.    I feel for that little puppy as I do all living things, but I don't think its any more worthy than any of the rest.   Its a choice I do not have to make.
You go on and rant and curse all you like, it means little to me, sorry I upset you so.
I stand by my original post, its a scam to me.

Moons.