Understanding Different Drives,,,prey, aggresion, etc. - Page 2

Hi Beetree, I'm good... hope you are?

I've looked on now and again, but all the loons were upon us... it's too dreary!  On top of that, I can't get the fonts & size I want... what's going on?

I don't know if our "terms / interpretations" are always the same as those across the pond... so, I must check.  Civil... lol... willing to bite?  Sounds like a contradiction...  thank you!

Missbeeb and Beetree,

To illustrate....

In a nutshell,  a civil dog , even in training, will bite the helper, if he is dumb enough to drop the sleeve.  Of my two dogs, EITHER will bite for real, but the young bitch actually spits the sleeve out in training and goes for the helper.  Dropping the sleeve (letting it drop to the ground) would simply result in a badly bitten helper.  In a dog that it is not civil, a dropped sleeve is like a withholding of the reward (bite) and the dog realizes that he has not done what he was supposed to do, because the game stopped.      A dropped sleeve won't stop a civil dog from biting at all.   Civil dogs are not  "equipment oriented."  That does not mean that non-civil dogs always are, by any means-- lots of the dogs that are not considered "civil" are not necessarily so equipment oriented that they will not bite, if a person is not wearing a sleeve, either. 

I hope that makes it a little less murky than mud.

Thanks Mystere...

Clear as the Mississippi! LOL Just kidding! Thanks, for the precise examples, Mystere. nbspAnd just like Missbeeb, how it became called "civil" has always seemed a contradiction to me.nbsp

...and Missbeeb, yes, this board has its share of fruitloops floating in the milk, lately!nbsp