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4pack

by 4pack on 13 March 2009 - 14:03

I second the KetoChlor shampoo and ask your vet  about ResiChlor leave on lotion for after bath and between baths.

Trailrider

by Trailrider on 13 March 2009 - 15:03

I remembered reading about this once so googled it and found the page. It mentions Ny-Zymes (mentioned above) as well as Oxi-drops , alot of info. Can't say if it works or not. Your poor dog. I sure hope you find the answer for him.
http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/systemic_yeast_infections_candida_albicans.htm

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 13 March 2009 - 15:03

Like others have said, it's no wonder the dog is yeasty after a MONTH on antibiotics. He should've been eating yogurt the whole time he was on the Cephalexin, and he needs to be on a strong probiotic. Try Garden of Life brand Fungal Defense first, then go to Primal Defense ultra. The Fungal Defense will help w/the candida, and the Primal Defense (or Ultra) will give him back a balanced enough gut to fight allergies on his own. What's happening here is pretty obvious, actually, if this is truly all there is to it.

The majority of the immune system is centered in the gut. When it's that out of whack, you are inviting problems.

NWilz

by NWilz on 13 March 2009 - 16:03

First of all, thank you all so much for the overwhelming good advice. Cee, I live in the middle of no where and I have no idea where to find a derm. vet and frankly, I'm running out of cash. This dog was supposed to be healthy so I had my usual emergency fund set aside, then when I got my poor dog, my emergency fund was gone quick and we've been spending about every extra dime we have on him so I'm kind of depleted right now (with the great economy and all it's really helpful). Katjo, he's had a blood panel and all is normal.  Do I need to ask about an immune system check?  To answer your question about was it sanitary where he was before I got him, NO, it was not by any means.  He was covered in sores (literally not an inch of him without a sore), he was FILTHY and supposedly had had a bath so it could have been worse, he smelled horrid, I still have the collar he was wearing when I got him, it's on a shelf somewhere and last I saw it (probably in the last month) it still had this horrible smell.  The dog was emaciated.  So as a precaution we treated for parasites, gardia (sp?), and such because he had diarhea for about 3 weeks and was full of hook worms. I've had him totally off antibiotics for two months or so.  They weren't really doing anything and the vet made the decision to try without for a while.  He has improved some in that time.  He got a steroid shot once and there was no miracles or anything.  But when the actual owner who raised him (not the horrible kennel) had him, he was treated at least at times, and might have received a lot of steroids.  Original owner said he had problems until he was about a year old (mainly ear infections), things cleared up for a year or so, then got worse.  He's never been as sick as he was when I got him. Domenic, thanks for the advice and when I finish typing this I am going to search...oh I see a link to it.  The yeast is from the body.  Thank goodness, his ears have been clear for months with diligent cleanings.  Chicken is his thing.  When I got him, he had extreme diarrhea and I didn't want to put him on a chicken based food, but my vet highly recommended one and his stomach straightened out slowly.  He's doing good on raw chicken so I'm not feeding him much else due to fear of making him worse...I know it sounds like he's bad now, but we're talking a handful or sores now versus a body full when I got him.  He was checked for demodex and scabies as far as I know.  They are both done via skin scrape right?  I have other dogs and they are all fine. Can Diflucan be used in dogs?  I asked my vet this and never got a straight answer...I think that would be something that would really help.  I'm going to call around some different vets today, not sure my vet here is doing everything he can and he's charging me insane prices.  I prefer a vet who's 5 hours from here, so we may have to go back to him. Rugers Guru and 4pack, I know my vet doesn't carry those but I'll call and track some down today.  We've spent so much time at my vet, I know his inventory better than I know what's in my own house. Trailrider, thanks and I am going to check that out too.
Jenni, the month he spent on antibiotics was absolutely nessicary (I have pictures)...I didn't know if he would live he had so much infection.  I did keep him on yogurt that month and to this day...he LOVES his yougurt (that was August-Setember of 08, and he was on antibiotics again in September 08, and again in October 08, then he was to a point that he could survive without antibiotic.  In hindsight, my vet here gave him the secnd and third round of antibiotics and he probably could have made it without them.  I am very against antibiotics for normal everyday stuff...but this was extr

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 13 March 2009 - 16:03

I wasn't saying he didn't need antibiotics. I was saying that he needs now, a mega regimen of probiotics.

by triodegirl on 13 March 2009 - 17:03

Sounds like the story of my life after the transplant 2 years ago. The anti-rejection drugs supress my immune system so it's been one infection after another after another. Best I can hope for is to manage them so they don't get out of control. If there's a particular sore that won't heal it's possible there's a secondary bacterial infection along with the fungal infection. (If the skin is cracked and isn't kept clean the bacteria moves in.) A number of the anti-fungal drugs have an adverse interaction with the anti-rejection drugs so have to be careful what I use. The doctors have been useless so I've been spending all my spare time lately eating yogurt and surfing the 'net trying to get information. Fun times. Good luck with your boy. I would also wonder if there's a problem with his immune system. f it helps, the best topical treatment I have found so far is the Tinactin pump spray. (Not the aerosol) At least is works pretty good for me. Seems to penetrate the skin better without drying it out as much as the creams. Best cream so far is the Desenex with Clotrimizole. It is thicker and last longer once applied to the skin.

NWilz

by NWilz on 13 March 2009 - 17:03

Jenni, oh ok, gotcha.  I'm keeping him on probiotics also because he has IBD and I've heard that probiotics help with that.  I personally had issues with giving him antibiotics for that long.  I'm really not a fan of antibiotics unless it's an emergency but in his case, at least for the first month, it was an emergency.  I've owned GSDs my entire life and the longest one of mine has ever been on antibiotics was 10 days, so the whole 30 day thing freaked me out.  When I first got him and I posted here, people informed me about probiotics...I was ignorant about probiotics.  I'd always just used yogurt.  Thanks for the good tip  :)
-Nichole

by RONNIERUNCO on 13 March 2009 - 17:03

FINALLY A SUBJECT I KNOW ABOUT. YEAST INFECTIONS AND YEASTY SMELLS. TEA TREE OIL IS THE SOLUTION. GET SOME AND SEE. I KNOW MY YEAST.

4pack

by 4pack on 13 March 2009 - 17:03

http://www.nzymes.com/Articles/Instructions_for_systemic_yeast_infections.htm

 

Has anyone used this kit? I just made an order and some human probiotics for myself. Aparently me and the dog can share the stuff. I'll let you all know how well it works out for us. Too many of those symtoms listed are hitting home.


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 13 March 2009 - 17:03

NWilz,
I feel sorry for the dog.   I went through this with one dog.
You can't cure it by throwing money at the vet.   Or by looking for a wonder cure.
I have no answers, only a sad feeling for the dog.
Put him outside when you can, let him get good and dirty.  Feed him a simple food (not raw)and stop with the meds.
Sunshine and a little rain on his back, a little earth on his skin.  He'll either sink or swim.
I couldn't watch mine suffer and did end up putting him down.
I could only find temporary cures for his discomfort and did not want to fight it any longer for his sake.  The vet was the only one getting any better.
My dogs problems were genetic and he was never going to have any peace, I blame the breeder.
I can't tell you what you should do, I don't know if the dog is in that much discomfort.  And I'm sorry if I sound hard hearted.
If the dogs problems are genetic in nature it won't improve, but try the dirt , rain, and sunshine.  And see if the dogs own immune system can overcome this on its own for a while. 
Sometimes too much is worst than a little, let the dog be a dog for a while.  See if nature will heal on its own.
i'm just in that kind of mood today and I'm only thinking of the dog.
Moons.

 


 

 






 


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