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myfanwy

by myfanwy on 03 March 2009 - 11:03

HERE'S AN OFF THE WALL SUGGESTION.

WHAT IF ALL THE GSD BREEDERS DID NOT REGISTER THERE LITTER'S WITH THE K.C OR DID NOT BREED FOR 6 OR 12 MONTHS.
THAT WOULD GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 

Videx

by Videx on 03 March 2009 - 12:03

The Kennel Club should drop the name (Alsatian) and adopt the full FCI/SV GSD breed standard, and if they wish, add some 'notes' too emphasise health matters.

Then, the Kennel Club should.

1) Agree to compulsory health screening tests for all dogs prior to breeding and KC registration of their offspring.

2) Where health screening tests widentify a problem, the KC must ensure that NO offspring from that dog is KC registered, and the effected dog cannot be exhibited.

3) The Kennel Club to establish a system whereby if any dog is Veterinary diagnosed with a LISTED DISEASE (KC to draw up the list) The Vet must inform the BVA who in turn inform the Kennel Club. The Kennel Club will then STOP registering any further offspring from the dog, and stop the dog from being exhibited.


by Mackenzie on 03 March 2009 - 12:03

Hello Myfanwy

I am afraid that your suggestion will not work.   Agreement is not possible and from the KC point of view the revenue from the GSD world is a spit in the old bucket and they can survive without it.  It would be self damaging.

Mackenzie

jaymesie51

by jaymesie51 on 03 March 2009 - 13:03

i agree with david 100% but we need everyone of us to back this or we will get nothing as i said in the could this happen in the UK thread
Mackenzie i would say that around 250.000 pounds a year is not a spit in the ocean for anyone in this present climate and i am sure the KC could not and would not like to loose this revenue.
jim h

Videx

by Videx on 03 March 2009 - 13:03

 LISTED DISEASES: as per my post above, point 3:

I want EPILEPSY on the list.

by Mackenzie on 03 March 2009 - 13:03

Hello Jim h

I agree with you that everyone has to pull together if we want to effect change.  That is clear.

I would also say, that to you and I, and most of the people reading the posts, the sum of 250,000 pounds is more than a spit in the ocean.  However, if we put this a little more into focus it may not appear so great, especially to the KC.  For example, take into account the revenue generated by all the breeds together and, our breed is only one, then the total annual revenue is a phenominal figure.  Add to that the revenue from shows, sales and other things the KC income is even higher.  Even once expenses and taxes etc are deducted  I am sure that the balance sheet shows a healthy figure.

If you then take into account any organisation in the world which is embroiled in a campaign affecting ego and reputation the expenditure in protecting these becomes a secondary consideration until after the dust settles. 

I do not know the amount of Revenue generated by the KC but it would be interesting to find out.

Mackenzie


by Mackenzie on 03 March 2009 - 14:03

I agree with David that Epilepsy should be included on the List of Diseases.  I disagree with David on the matter of the KC to prepare the list.  I think a better way would be for us to put forward all the diseases we would want to include leaving the KC to exclude (with their reasons) any disease they feel inappropriate to include.   We must get them to argue their case at every opportunity.

Mackenzie

by Gustav on 03 March 2009 - 14:03

Videx, If the three stated rules you want put into effect, were effectively carried out by the KC, in twenty years you will have pigeonholed your lines of use to a point that you would start doing more damage than you're attempting to correct. There is a reason that no other national KC has taken things to this level,( And its not because you in the UK were the first to think of this). I think suggestions like this need to be thought out more indepth as to negative impact.....for every action there is a correlating reaction and sometimes that reaction in the long term is worse than the problem the action is seeking to correct.JMO 

by Mackenzie on 03 March 2009 - 15:03

Hello Gustav 

You are quite right in saying that suggestions need to be thought out in depth.  Perhaps you can help here by saying what damage you envisage may arise in say twenty years or earlier.  All contributions are welcome at this point in the discussion.

One would hope that any drastic changes that start to appear will be looked into and dealt with as and when the indications appear.    Many health problems are insidious in their onset and have a hold before they are recognised as a major problem.  It is the same in humans.

regards

Mackenzie

Videx

by Videx on 03 March 2009 - 15:03

Any list the KC is responsible for, will be drawn up by the KC, whatever the process they adopt to draw it up, or whatever process we advise or try to suggest. Semantics get us going in circles. Lets simply say "The LIST".

Gustav: "spanners in the works" of any idea, must be detailed, please proceed and detail. Generalities in something as important as "serious diseases" must be avoided. 

Genetic diversity can be dealt with, in most breeds, a few may require, with the help of DNA testing, some exemption from "not to be bred from" policy to an "if bred from, must be bred to a clear", policy.






 


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