Those large oversized Males offered for sale - Page 2

sounds like an ego thing

I can say having been a k9 officer for 6 years it was kinda nice getting my 125 pound male out of the car to go after bad guys.  He looked the part and played the part.  He was also very agile and jumped 5 foot fences when needed.  He could also jump flat footed into a semi.  When the going got tough he could fight with the best of them.  The town I worked was very high crime and I loved my BIG dog looking after me. We also won the 2005 State Patrol dog championship...............Not bad for an oversize .........and 3/4 shwline and 1/4 american lines.

Uber Land I think your exactly right. Typically those who want them a lot bigger usually have a big ego to fulfill.  The same goes for those with Pitts, Rotties, ect who claim their dog could take down a GSD or another breed.  The truth is...you don't NEED  125-130 lb GSD to take down a bad guy usually.  Many times they give up with the site of the dog anyway. I will be perfectly happy if my male out of Mambo z Pohranicni Straze only ends up in the low 80s in size.  I do see a lot of people who breed them larger....as someone else in this post stated to spin them off as the "origional" GSD, and they'll argue till they're blue in the face that they're correct. Sure breeding to XL males increases bone size, but If anyones bones have gotten smaller over time it's Max Stephanitz from his bones scraping against the coffin from turning over in his grave so many times at what people have done to this breed.

If you need a massive gsd to take out a bad guy, then why are so many officers having great luck with 60-lb Mals?
(spoken by someone with a 90 lb manly-bitch)

the most amazing thing I have ever seen was a 35-40 lb mal bitch take down a very large helper.  I have pics in an album somewhere of it.

JMO, big dogs physically wear down quicker.  not really talking about stamina, but age. It is generally accepted knowledge that the bigger the dog, the quicker it ages and wears down.

Dogshome9 wrote

" I saw a good one "Excellent  SHOW AND BREEDING PROSPECT 70cm "

  Can anyone tell me where in the world you can show a 70cm GSD ?"


UK !

Margaret N-J

Anybody who beleives a 60lb malionois can take down most criminals that do not want to be aprehended is naive , as a citizen for 3 0yrs in a large city I have witnessed first hand when a person is using drugs or achohol there pain threshold is elavated and smaller dogs are sometimes not as affective.I personal witnessed a  70lb Mal that had bit on a large bad guys arm lifted up and ran down an alley  like he was not even there . So if you like smaller dogs thats fine but dont assume or state that  there is no use for large oversize males ,as thats just not the case. I also love the fact that many quote Max as if they were his personal confidant, my opinon is that Max would apreciate all the variables in the breed types that make it appealing to so many ...... Matt Dillen

 I think von Stephanitz would say that if we want massive GSDs, maybe we should buy Shilohs. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just kidding!

In a breed as  diverse as the GSD the question of whether a dog should be bred should be, in my opinion,
"Can it do - in an exemplary way - the complicated work which I'm using as an evaluation tool?"

If a bigger than average dog can do it - why not?
If a smaller than average dog can do it - great.

I think the standard should be changed to allow for ALL variation that isn't non-essential within the breed.

Things like rules about ears, color, size, coat length, etc... are all silly to me.

BUT - that being said, I don't like the attitude that --->
"I am free to ignore the standard because I'm me - and as me - I make my own standard"....that type of thing seems egoistic to me.

GSD lovers as a whole should periodically change the standard to reflect the changing needs of the work of the breed.

That being said, people should play by the rules - otherwise they are sort of like criminals - flouting socieities rules because they don't feel rules should apply to themselves.