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Videx

by Videx on 01 March 2009 - 20:03

I trust that most of you read the following paragraphs in the TIMES online article - above

Caroline Kisko, secretary of the Kennel Club, said: “We all think dog shows are under threat. There is a view among some animal welfare groups like the RSPCA that dog shows are bad. But if you don't have dog shows what is the incentive for people to change the way they breed dogs?

“We have to get across that showing dogs is about improving the health of dogs and ensuring they have a good temperament.”

She acknowledged that a number of breed societies were angry about the new standards. “If they don't accept new standards they will have to go their own way. The majority can't be sacrificed to the minority.”

Is it TIME to CONSIDER this offer from the Kennel Club secretary?

funky munky

by funky munky on 02 March 2009 - 07:03

bump

Videx

by Videx on 02 March 2009 - 08:03

 What does the Kennel Club Secretary mean, when she says "they will have to go their own way"? Perhaps a door of opportunity is opening, which some breeds will walk through!

I hope the WUSV member Clubs will investigate the possibility of our breed having much closer links with the SV, perhaps including SV REGISTRATION, and compulsory health screening tests, and their DNA parentage test. With the apparent blessing of the Kennel Club.

Liebe

by Liebe on 02 March 2009 - 11:03

How many people really take an ill/unhealthy dog to crufts???  More likely they will take dogs that have poor temperments and the judges cant get near them properly.

How many of us have seen dogs cringing in the benching and being dragged along because they are so unbalanced?  Thats what they should be targeting IMHO.

Videx

by Videx on 02 March 2009 - 12:03

 A simple target is for the Kennel Club to check their KC/BVA records of the Hips Scheme, they could do this during this week, then any dog entered at CRUFTS over the age of 2 years that has NOT been hip scored, and any dog with a hip score total of over 25, should be disqualified from competing.

Will they consider this? NO!
What they will prefer to do is tell the Judge of GSD to remove dogs that appear unsound, even though such a dog has excellent hips, proven through the KC/BVA scheme, yet to continue Judging dogs with HIGH hip scores that are apparently sound. WHAT A LOAD OF ROLLOCKS. Who knows, we may have a number of CRUFTS winners with very HIGH hip scores, appalling elbow dysplasia, with haemophilia, and with Veterinary diagnosed and drug treated Epilepsy, and other serious health problems, THAT COULD BE IDENTIFIED WITH COMPULSORY HEALTH SCREENING TESTS, AND THOSE WITH "LISTED HEALTH FAILINGS" COULD BE BANNED FROM ENTERING ANY SHOWS.

by Member on 02 March 2009 - 17:03

Reference :Crufts or any future shows.  Health Checks and Shows

The very fact that the dogs which have the failings are registered with the KC means they can enter the shows ,so they ( the KC)are condoning the entries for these events. At what stage do the KC wish to step in and inform the exhibitor their dog is not FIT for the purpose of which they have registered it. It is a possibility that  the exhibitor purchased the dog from an Accredited Breeder or from the KC Puppy sales registrar. Why no one at the KC can get their head around this leaves me confused , I will say no more.
John Ward

jaymesie51

by jaymesie51 on 02 March 2009 - 20:03

well said john and 100% correct
jim h

by paulie on 02 March 2009 - 21:03

Taking both David and John's points a little further, re. the Judge disqualifying an animal which in their opinion, is unsound, how is that Judge going to look if the owner walks into the ring, waving a BVA/KC hip certificate, and an  Elbow score, in my opinion i would think that this would place the Judge in a invidious position, what would happen for instance, if it was a male, who's stud career suffered because of the Judges opinion which may later on in a court case be proved contradictory  by the exhibitors vet.

by paulie on 02 March 2009 - 21:03

continued.


    You can bet your last pound that the KC would'nt fund the judges legal defence, even though they created the situation.

Regards Paul.

by Alyson R on 02 March 2009 - 21:03

It is a known fact that there have been (and still are) many dogs shown and winning top honours who have high hip scores.  Almost without exception  these animals were considered to be "sound as a pound"





 


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