This is really bugging me--Why only 3 GSD's??? - Page 2

Yvette, You have just triggered another defensive tirade.

"None of the dogs in Westminster are working quality dogs anyway. Better for the breed to get it out of the spot light of what is "popular""

Yeah, the kennel that won BOB has a Ch. stud dog by Jim vom Fiemereck, SchHIII, kkl1, and they also have champion bitches by him, but I guess that means that they're not interested in any kind of working ability at all.

This kennel produces German Shepherd Dogs that serve in real police departments, and real search-and-rescue squads, and are certified therapy dogs.  And a dog that worked in the rubble of the WTC after 9/11.  Yeah, guess they're not "working quality dogs anyway." 

So c'mon, tell us, SchHBabe, what exactly is real "working quality" since all these dogs obviously don't make the grade in your book.

Let's hear what you think they need to do to meet your high standards, since working rescue after 9/11 or being on the police squad of Middletown, NJ isn't good enough.

A real working dog knows how to bite on a sleeve.

Yup, that's the criteria, along with some tracking and obedience... 

In all fairness their are some very nice looking working line dogs. I think they could beat some of the show lines if everyone has an open mind.

A working dog can bite on "sleeve"?  I hope that was meant to be a joke?

  A real working dog (Police) needs to bite on skin and listen to the perp scream and get pumpled with fists from someone who could be drunk or on crack and lots lots bigger.  A real working dog has to have the ability and brain power to look for live/dead people in rubble while his/her humans are dealing with emotions that may not be conducive to work.  A real woking dog needs to cover his handler when bombs are being dropped and be willing to take that bullet.

A real working dog needs to be calm and steady while a balding 6 year old with leukemia pets him/her or his/her blind owner is trying to make it to work, the store or all of the other tasks the sighted take for granted.

A real working dog alerts his owner when a fire breaks out in the house, the baby is not breathing, a stranger is at the door, the five year old decieds to take a little walk to the park when mom is not looking, and in the case of old Rip on the farm, makes sure no farm rats get in the house.

Thats what a working dog does

 

"In all fairness their are some very nice looking working line dogs. I think they could beat some of the show lines if everyone has an open mind."

Of course there are!  I agree completely.  The bashing on here is going in the other direction, and I just get tired of the "automatic bash" in that here's a kennel (and I don't know these people personally) that's breeding GSD - and some of them are winning BOB at Westminster and some of them are on police forces and some worked the WTC after 9/11 and some are therapy dogs and some are show champions and some excel in obedience trials and some of them who do these things have Schutzhund-titled dogs behind them.  But people come on here and state right out that none of them are working quality.  It's ridiculous.  Whoever these breeders are who just won Westminster BOB really seem to be walking the walk and not just talking - they seem to be actively and successfully! breeding true GSD - ones that excel in anything and everything.  They should be congratulated and emulated, not bashed.

Baldursmom, didn't you see sunsilver's ?

Balldur'sMom, I fully agree about your definition of a working dog. I was just taking a dig at the people on this board who seem to think doing Schutzhund is the be-all and end-all of what a GSD should be. I don't care much for narrowmindedness, IOW, people who think a dog must be crap just because it's American lines or show lines.

Sunsilver:
I apologize if you took offense, just could not tell if you were joing, now that I see the , (last time just a red x) I realize you were joking and as you can tell from my post, I agree with you.  I prefer my German Show Lines, but I have years of experience with Am Line pets and security dogs, they are what made me fall for the breed. 

BaldursMom, if I got offended that easily, I wouldn't hang around this board!  Nope, I've got a pretty thick skin most of the time.

I respect Alkarah for what they are trying to do. Now if ONLY more GSD's would get titled in both conformation AND performance events!!  The two seem to be mutually exclusive in both the AKC and CKC...

No Gustav, I  wouldn't - three was quite enough.