Golden Retrievers and Standard Poodles in Schutzhund - Page 2

One of my goals in life is to SchH title an Irish Wolfhound. And I've seen some tough poodles, my fiancee has always said he wants one for SchH one day.

A well bred golden retriever should have a soft mouth and should therefore be unsuitable for bitework

Would love to see a standard poodle doing Schutzhund...I have a photo somewhere of one on a sleeve.

Not goldens but...  I've posted some of these before:

My old boy:

My puppy bitch:

Ha!  I was thinking of you when I said Cattle Dogs, but I couldn't remember your screen name. 

Recently over on workingdogforum, there was a nice video of some working bostons on the sleeve, I beleive the video was from Europe.  Anyways those little guys are kick ass - if they were any bigger they would def be a menace to society!

 Well, thus far, the experiment has failed.  Or, maybe it sucesfully proved that only the shiloh folks are monitoring for any mention of their breed here. 

FWIW--Labs and Goldies should have mouths too soft to do bitework.  But, I have seen a black lab, Licorice Rush, put gsds to shame in a regional championship.   I guess if they are unsuitable as bird dogs, they are good for schutzhund!!

Don't leave out Jack Russel Terriers.

There was one owned by a woman who was into racing them who also brought him in to train with Ivan.  His obedience was just fine.  His bite was super high drive and he would just go airborne to get the sleeve.. He hit the sleeve really hard. Great on the bark and hold.

He had one big, big problem, he would not OUT. 

A group of policeman who were there to see him in action were awestruck by the Jack Russel.

I don't know whether his "OUT" problem was ever resolved.

There was also a magnificent cattle dog.  He also had a servious problem, he was a dirty biter in the blind.

No discussion of other breeds in schutzhund is ever complete without a link to the video of the indomitable,  incomparable, JackRusselHollyTerror AKA Mr. Murphy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTN5kTkdvME

It would be wrong not to include this video.  RIP, Mr. Murphy

 Okay, let's not forget the little dogs that actually EARNED schutzhund titles.  There was a Corgi that I think got to Sch 2 and a Scottie.  For my money, the best schutzhund dog in the WORLD, would be a 60- pound Scotty.  They are the very incarnation of courage, hardness and fighting drive.  Stubborn as hell, too.   Best thing about them is that they are small enough to fit in a tote bag, so the fact that you cannot get decent obedience out of them becomes irrelevant. 

Next time you are around an AKC all-breed show, check out the Scotties.  Their teeth  and jaws are at least 50% bigger than they should be for a dog that size (18-22 lbs.) and they are scrappy little suckers.  I had one with a 90+ lb gsd.  Both bitches.  They never got worked out who was alpha between them.  The gsd tried to kill the Scottie 3 times, but that little bitch would never, never back down.  In fact, she usually started the warfare.

If I am ever in a situation where I can  only have a small dog, it would be a Scottie.  They are tough!.