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by animules on 25 December 2008 - 03:12
I'll be sending good thoughts......
One of my girls litteraly ran herself into the ground one day. She hobbled around for a couple days and I gave her some baby asprin (after talking with her doc). She was fine, I just have to be more aware when she goes into one of those modes.

by Gator113 on 25 December 2008 - 04:12
triodegirl,
That's very sad, and on Christmas eve no less. I will say a prayer for you and your dog.
Breeders that breed dogs that have ANY history of bad hips should be thrown in prison.
There may come a day when an enterprising young lawyer will take some of these breeders to complete and permanent financial ruin. Hopefully, that will help to stop this kind of heartbreak.

by Bob-O on 25 December 2008 - 06:12
Relax-it is probably just a severe sprain. I know that is easier to say than do! Sprains can take a very long time to heal and are virtually impossible to detect with a radiograph. It is important to keep the dog active-but do it carefully. Some pain medication such as Rymadil can help, but as with all things pharmacological there is a certain risk associated with it.
Do not be surprised if this sprain requires as many as eight (8) weeks to pass. Long ago I too took a young dog in for a pelvic radiograph because I suspected a hip problem. His hips were fine and I was quite relieved, but it required a long time for him to completely heal.
Good luck and best regards,
Bob-O
by WiscTiger on 25 December 2008 - 15:12
I could be sore muscles, a strain or partial tore ACL or CCL. My Jevita pup ruptured his ACL and tore out 3 of the 4 Meniscus a week before his first birthday.
The pups that I know of from Jevita Grando have decent hips, not good but fair. The problem that I know of is an Elbow Problem and it was in different litters from different bloodlines. There again, not terrible but they won't pass OFA because of DJD, nothing bad eough that requires surgery, just not great elbows that the dogs will have to live with.
I hope you dog just over did or is sore from the spill. Make sure the Vet checks the Knee's also.
Val

by pagan on 25 December 2008 - 16:12
Hope he is ok
by triodegirl on 25 December 2008 - 18:12
Trigger made it up on the couch this morning but took some convincing. What worries me is that several months ago he was having difficulty getting up the basement steps. I thought at that time he had just strained something as the following week he was fine. Maybe he re-injured something? I'd feel a whole lot better with some x-rays of both his hips and elbows.
Larry Paskerts owned Grando at the time he was bred to Mia. www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/466367.html He sold Grando because of the 4 longcoats in the litter. I found out from his partner this past summer that at least 2 (possibly 3) of the pups out of that litter of 8 also have ears that are flopped over. (Trigger's ears are fine.)
The last 3 years I've been bragging to my friends that I finally found a healthy GSD. I'm praying that doesn't change. Thanks to all again for the support. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

by sundancesharon on 25 December 2008 - 18:12
Poor Trigger. I hope he is much recovered today. I keep a bottle of DGP (a natural anti-inflammatory) on my shelf, and it's amazing how much relief the dog can get quickly from these chewable tablets.
Gator113 , you made some comments about bad hips and lawyers........I have spoken to so many breeders and veterinarians about hips and elbow. It is just impossible to know that you are not going to through a bad hip or elbow at some time, even with the most fantastice genetices on your side. The problems go so far back, you can have one crop up after 6 or 7 generations of breeding sound dogs.
I totally agree that every breeder must take precautions, research and then evaluate with OFA or "a" stamp, but if a bad hip or elbow comes up, it doesn't mean they are a bad breeder. It means it's sad and that a good home needs to be found for that dog, and that that dog needs to be spayed or neutered. and not breed the 2 parents again, but switch to new bloodlines.
I haven't produced a bad hip, but I only have one litter a year (maybe 2 this next year), so I don't have the volume going through my little breeding program.
Anyway, good Luck with Trigger. It is so hard to watch our best friends when they are hurting.
Sharon
by triodegirl on 25 December 2008 - 21:12
I'm not familiar with DGP but did a search and found a web site where they sell it. Has anyone else tried it?www.doggonepain.com/
by jdh on 25 December 2008 - 21:12
Triodegirl,
Take it easy. He is most likely healthy, and just stiff and sore from overdoing it. I hope he recovers quickly. Jonah
by Teri on 26 December 2008 - 13:12
I feel for you. I had to put a 7 month old GSD male pup down after finding out he had severe HD, however there were signs all along. Little movement things that I thought were maybe, perhaps strange but then he'd romp & play and NEVER appeared to be in pain. But he was never able to jump up on you while standing on his back legs. He was my 2nd GSD pup and I thought it was just growing and being clutsy or something. Your Tiger sounds very different, healthy until over doing. I hope you get your xrays and answers soon, I know waiting can be a killer. Good luck.
Teri
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