are there any police/military K9s on this site - Page 2

Plz note that he or she was asked some questions by others in previous threads which were neglected and that is not nice !!!

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/453928.html

Griff is a working K9 as well as a proven sire... He's in Ohio... the owner's website is

www.wilmothdogs.com/wk9/griff.aspx

He's a Tom Van 'T Leefdaalhof IPO3, SchH3 SZ#2018398 son, Many Tom Progeny, and grandprogeny have done well trialing as well as actual working K9's, with good conformation as well.

I'm sure there are many many others who are excellent also, and by no means is this an endorsement of breeding your dog.  Just as Griff and others have proven their mettle on the field or in work, your dog should have credentials as well.  Without knowing any info on your dog it would be jumping the gun to say don't breed  her... instead you should consider her worth to the breed, not just in your heart...

the litter will be for family member of mine that have requested puppies out of her

so their not to be sold to the public

and two the reason they dont want to goto a breeder is cause how many of you breeders have had problems with your puppies over breeding, so for the dumbass thinking idk what im talking about im a chemist i know how to do all the DNA tests myself which i have done

so if any of you idiots that printed your name on a card and call yourself a breeder maybe you should get an education in at least equine sciences if not beyond that

i asked for a male with working qualifications

bring your dog down and meet me in haiti and tell me whose dog is better for ppl your show dog or my dog that finds ppl

ok prcabulrid,

since you want to be an ass.  

the litter will be for family member of mine that have requested puppies out of her

they want possibly ten dogs? and what would there use be?

and two the reason they dont want to goto a breeder is cause how many of you breeders have had problems with your puppies over breeding, so for the dumbass thinking idk what im talking about im a chemist i know how to do all the DNA tests myself which i have done

I dont care if your a chemist. it means very little to breeding animals. Considering its more biology that chemistry. Maybe if you were a biochemist I would by that. Not all breeders have these issues either so dont generalize! There is also much more to a sire selection than tests and being a police dog.

so if any of you idiots that printed your name on a card and call yourself a breeder maybe you should get an education in at least equine sciences if not beyond that

what the hell does horses have to do with gsd's?

bring your dog down and meet me in Hiati and tell me whose dog is better for ppl your show dog or my dog that finds ppl

I pulled a dog from a local rescue i trained that is there now with his new owner and handler. So that means nothing as well. and i own no showline dogs. I own all working line dogs. As far as being able to do scent work (whatever the discipline) isnt the only qualification needed in the purpose of this breed. Oh and I own multiple certified trailing dogs and my newest pup is going for his advanced scent discrimination trailing dog cert in 3 months at 19 months through the ntpda. titled dogs, oh and i do scent work as a profession. I will not compare to your dog but i dont have a dog in my home that would not excel in SAR as well as having the qualities necessary to do dual purpose police work as they are stable and balanced.
 
There are many more on this sight who know a hell of a lot more than me and im certain from the way you speak you have a ways to go. If you listen and learn from those with experience it would get you much farther. As this board is to share information for the betterment of training and the breed. not for someone who wants to breed to a police dog for no apparent reason and refuses to explain themselves.

You still haven't answered my questions and without doing so accurately and politely no one here will take you seriously as you show your own ignorance if you can not provide those simple answers.

Also if you cant tell the dog in my avatar damn sure isn't show-line you have no business opening your mouth about anyone else's knowledge. So think twice before making accusations as well.

prcabulrid,
Are you saying that you are actually in Haiti with that pup shown in your ad?  That dog seems to young to be doing SAR or cadevar work.  I have an outstanding working police K9, with a fantastic pedigree.  But, I wouldn't stud my K9 to the couch potato you have pictured in your add.  Sorry, but in one post on thePDB you completely knock people who breed dogs and on this post you want to breed your dog.  What makes your dog so valuable to the GSD breed that she should be bred?  

Yoshy,
what is the NTPDA?  It seems like a PSA organization, just curious.

Jim  

NTPDA is national tactical police dog association.

jerry bradshaw owns both orgainzation ntpda and psa.

http://www.tacticalcanine.com/ •An Educational organization dedicated to expanding the knowledge base of Police K9 Trainers & Handlers across the US and Internationally.
•Provides an alternative certification venue that tests both the K9’s competency and evaluates the tactical proficiency of the K9 team with scenario based K9 team certifications.
•Seminars & Certifications are available in patrol, narcotics, explosives, trailing, article search and SAR disciplines.
•Invites professional private police dog trainers as well as certified law enforcement personnel to apply for full membership.
•Provides an accreditation process for trainers & dedicated K9 units providing training services.


i know its a long read but once you get through the it, it is actually a fairly rigerous certification/qualification process.


http://www.psak9.org/

is set up more as a sport than a true real life evaluation scheme. thats bad wording though as i feel psa is the closest sport for judgeing a dogs true capabilities in protection.  we all can argue sport vs real life.  quick run down is it puts much more pressure and demand on the dogs through protection and obedience. it isnt stylized to the point of routine like schh. if the judge can think up the scenario everyone has to pass it.


edit: by the way im not a k9 handler i just do contract work to a company that is allowed to certify there dogs in scent work areas. if you scroll down the page about midway youll find the trailing certification section.

Seems interesting.  I really enjoy tracking and scent work.  There is nothing like tracking a bad guy and catching him at the end of the track.  It's a great feeling knowing that the slimeball may have gotten away if it wasn't for the dog.  I regularly go to our high crime areas and watch people walk around.  I will pick a person and watch them walk through a neighborhood and see where they go.  I'll give them some time and then take my dog out and begin a track down the street through apartment complexes with tons of people outside.  I did this today and watched my dog "footstep" track  a guy across an asphalt parking lot stopping and indicating where the guy spit, through woods and into an industrial area to where the guy was standing. 

Having the dog hit on dope in a car is a close second.   I'm always super proud of my dog when he does a good job.

Jim

i like that idea though. il have to do that sometime. with the people watching. never done that.

speaking of which you were commenting on your k9's ped. is he on here?

Yoshy,
Watching people walk through a neighborhood from a convenience store or bus stop to a house or apartment is great tracking training.  The people have no idea that they are laying a track for you.  The best way is for a second person to observe someone walking and tell you that you track starts at the X.  The X being the front of a white pick up truck parked in the street for example or the corner of third and Elm at the stop sign.  These tracks don't start in grass, usually the street.  The second person observes the "track layer" and watches where he / she goes and picks your starting and end points.  This way you have no idea where the person actually went and can't guide or assist your dog.  You really have to be skilled at recognizing your dog's loss of track and knowing the last place he was on the track.  Your second person doesn't help unless you have really lost the track and he gives subtle hints to get you back on track.  

I wouldn't recommend just any neighborhood to try this.  The neighborhoods I do this in I wouldn't walk around off duty and definitely not without a gun and my dog.  But they have plenty of people walking around all hours of the day and night. 

Here's a link to my dog's pedigree:

 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/469183.html 

He is out of Dante Traho a WUSV team member and Anita Auto Dam a fantastic female.  Anita has produced several National level competition dogs and several working K9's.  She is one of the best producing bitches I've seen.  He is primarily Czech lines, line bred on Cordan An Sat.  If you like Czech pedigrees I think you'll like his.  

Jim