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sundancesharon

by sundancesharon on 17 December 2008 - 18:12

This person is looking for showlinges capable of doing Schutzhund work.  Although I think the dogs are great, the anne kent site is full of working lines.


Mystere

by Mystere on 17 December 2008 - 19:12

  Anne Kent is definitely working line.

 

I agree with Bob and Sue:  You are simply NOT looking in the right places, if  you actually think that high drive dogs cannot be good family dogs.  It is about TEMPERAMENT, not drives, that make for family suitability.  Frankly, if you actually want working ability, drives and the temperament to fit inot a family setting, then working lines is the way to go.  I hae a male with over-the-top drives who IS a monster on the field.  He is a Teddy bear off the field, and would have been fine in any pet home.  Why?  Because he has such a stable TEMPERAMENT and iron nerves, and an "off"switch. .   He is a couch potato at home.  The same guys who tried to talk me into turning him over to them would have HATED him, had they ever seen him at home.  In fact, one of his breeders didn't like him as a puppy, because he thought he was too happy and wouldn't be serious enough in the work. . The first time he saw him work at 2 yo, he said, "We gave her the wrong dog."

If you want a family pet that you can play at schutzhund with, then showlines, by all means.  That does not necessarily guarantee you a stable temperament, either, though. 

I don't know any breeders, work or show, in Southern California to whom to refer you.  But, if you are absolutely sold on showlines, Randy Tyson, Tyson-Witmer, would be the route to go.  Randy and her husband also work and train working line dogs.  In fact, Randy once owned Mink, one of the pillars of working line pedigrees.   Also, Junear v Haus Tyson, who did so very well in a run for Universal Sieger, competing not only in the Sieger Show, but the USA Nationals this year, speaks to producing show lines capable of  doing the work.

 


by kioanes on 17 December 2008 - 19:12

oops - missed the 'showline' part....

 


sundancesharon

by sundancesharon on 17 December 2008 - 19:12

Well, OK, I know that most of you are biased towards working lines, and think a showline dog can't do the work.  And many can not.  But there are some great dogs out there doing excellent Schutzhund work that are also showline dogs!!!!  I know one on the way up.  He is beautiful and earning top V ratings and is on his way to his Sch3.  Very solid, with excellent bite work.  So, come on,....she wants a show line.  Lets not discourage her.


by thegoodstuff on 17 December 2008 - 20:12

Thank you everyone for your advice and help! But I do still want a show line. I understand that some working lines can live in a home, but I have seen many that cannot. Not trying to break the mold or anything! I just want a GSD that will be just as good on the field as it is in a show ring. I know they are out there.


by thegoodstuff on 17 December 2008 - 20:12

I have seen three breeders where the puppies where scaling the walls of their kennel, biting and snapping, and constantly barking. One breeder in particular scruffed a pup to pull it out of the kennel to show me, three others managed to be hanging off her arm and two managed to draw blood through a sweater and jacket. The puppy she was holding was trying desperately to leave his own mark on her hand and managed to rip her jacket pocket. Maybe that is what some of you want, but to me that is a monster and not what I want for a new family member. Sorry if I offended anyone with the monster comment. I am sure there are wonderful working lines out there, but from what I have seen, I like show lines better.


kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 17 December 2008 - 21:12

Death Row beautiful Black GSD in California

    how about you consider this poor lovely girl. I'd bet she would love to come home and be a great family girl. Price is right, and she may be younger than she looks!

(just a suggestion)


snajper69

by snajper69 on 17 December 2008 - 21:12

I have two females from two different breeders they both working lines both sleep with me in my bed lol hahaha :) one sleeps on my head hahahaha. I guess I better tell them they are not house dogs :) lol I am surre they will hate you for it hahaha :)


snajper69

by snajper69 on 17 December 2008 - 21:12

And when I make a dinner they are with me in the kitchen I tell them to down and hell can brake loose and they will not move even when I step on them :) BTW one is only 5 months old :) wow those working lines are really over the top :)


by KKR_Gsd02 on 17 December 2008 - 23:12

  breeders in california? wow i'm sure with a google search you'd be busy visiting kennels for a month.  don't alway's believe because the pack is unruly, that  the puppy that steals your heart is going to turn the house upside down! do you already have a club/trainer or trainers to work with? have they pointed you towards any breeders? that may be a good start.  also i'd look at the parents and how they are IN the HOUSE, any dog can produce kennel dogs, anyone willing to put in the time can make a kennel dog a house dog!

kenny






 


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