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snajper69

by snajper69 on 06 October 2008 - 21:10

Any updates?


by oso on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

Sorry no updates yet, the vet had some emergencies yesterday so has not done the ultrasound and no other results are back. But the puppy is stable for the moment. Will let you know...

snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

Oki, hope everythig will work out.


missbeeb

by missbeeb on 07 October 2008 - 14:10

oso, Sounds like a nightmare for you.

I like to feed scrambled eggs (with plain water or skimmed milk only) for the first couple of days (with or without rice) if mine are recovering from serious diarrhoea.

I have had one dog at deaths door after an unidentified infection and castration... he would not eat anything... I used to sit on the floor with his dish and cry because everything failed; then my Vet said to try a powder made by Pedigree Petfoods, I can't remember what it was called but Jack lapped this up and it played a big part in saving his life.  It had a ridiculously high protein content (I think it was about 59%) and I'm sorry to say that the price of it was equally ridiculous but it did the job!  It came in a canister of roughly 1 litre I think. 

 


by oso on 07 October 2008 - 17:10

Many thanks all for your concern and helpful suggestions. I had wondered about scrambled egg actually and I think the baby food is also a good idea as it should be easy to digest, will try these when she comes back home. I probably can't get arrowroot or the pedigree powder here but will look into it. I had already tried a powdered protein supplement for people that the vet recommended, but she would not accept it, I gave a little by syringe, but then decided it was back to the clinic as she was going downhill again... Will post again when I have more news.

by oso on 08 October 2008 - 12:10

OK, well the feces tests were all negative again. The blood tests showed elevated (almost double) white blood cells suggesting a bacterial infection (the first time white blood cells were low suggesting a virus). The ultrasound showed intestines, stomach, liver, pancreas and spleen normal, but a lack of peristaltic movements. The only other thing that showed up were calcifications in the kidney. I have only spoken to the vet by phone so far, I do not know if the kidney thing is related I need to research this as have no previous experience... The puppy seems to be recovering a little, she pulled out the catheter (again) as on the drip she seems to start feeling better and gets more active again. This is a little problematical as she has already had it in the two front legs and the veins have become fibrous and impossible to get it in again, so this time it was in the back leg, with a bucket on her head, but she still managed to get it out. She has very little appetite but was taking a little rice with the water it was boiled in and had normal defecation yesterday. the vet ays as Hodie suggested, just rice and no protein for now.

by hodie on 08 October 2008 - 18:10

Infection takes some time to show in blood work, depending on the specific etiology. I hope the pup is on a broad spectrum antibiotic. Given that, and the fact that it will eat the rice and water and had normal defecation, maybe you are on the right track. The calcification could be from a food contaminant. What food were you feeding and where did you get it? But the primary problem may well be a bacterial infection.

Keep us posted. Hopefully, the pup will make good progress now.


by oso on 08 October 2008 - 22:10

Hello Hodie, the antibiotic she is on is Trimethroprim sulfa. She seems to be improving and the vet will start giving her some egg tomorrow to see how she digests it, then he wants to give her ensure the protein powder. She is in good spirits and is getting a lot of individual attention and affection at the clinic! She will stay there until after the weekend as we are going to our sieger show (she was meant to be going too), and I cannot leave her with anyone but the vet! But I hope to have her home next week. As I mentioned this is the first time I have had a puppy sick for so long. Do you think there will be any long term consequences of this illness?

by oso on 08 October 2008 - 22:10

Forgot to mention the food she was eating before becoming sick was Royal Canin maxi junior.

by hodie on 09 October 2008 - 02:10

 Hi Oso,

I am happy to hear the pup is responding. The drug is Trimethoprim sulfa, a broad spectrum antibiotic which kills certain bacteria by inhibiting the formation of folic acid. It is generally considered safe, but it does have some potential idiosyncratic effects that might arise during treatment. One of the strange ones that actually might be reflected in your mention of the "calcification" seen is that sulfa crystals can form in the kidneys. They likely would go away in time. The main thing is that this antibiotic is well tolerated by normal gut bacteria, so a pup in the condition yours is in would not get diarrhea from the antibiotic killing off the good gut bacteria. If the pup is in good spirits, this seems like a huge improvement as well given what you have previously written. So, I suspect she did have some sort of serious infection, and it could have been a variety of things, including coccidia. Hopefully when you return from the SS she will be much improved. I would consider really seriously disinfecting everything you can, including kennel surfaces and dirt etc......just in case. 

As for long term consequences, it is difficult to say. I am of the opinion that serious parasitic infections often go undetected and make pups ill and in the short term can cause serious intestinal damage. That can heal, but in some cases, I am not sure it really does and that leaves a dog potentially open to problems later down the road. But I have no proof of this, just a gut feeling from experience. And yes, pathologically, it does make sense. But let's hope she does well. Certainly she will need some extra supportive care in the short term.

best wishes!

 

 






 


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