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by Teri on 29 August 2008 - 17:08
If I read your post correctly you said this dog was sold "AS IS" and even lowered your price on this dog. If I understood you correctly, you have already compensated him. The x-rays are poor at best and possibly that was intentionally done to help him out??? People do that kind of thing. :o( The hips do not look HD to me but I am far from an expert. I too think he is upset because she didn't take from the breeding and he is trying to use HD as his excuse to get his money so he can purchase another dog for breeding. Possibly he needs lessions on when and how to breed dogs. :o) I assume from your post stating the dog was sold "AS IS" that there were no clauses covering HD or any other condition in your contract requiring you to fefund his money when you sold this dog??? If that is the case I would tell him to read his contract, request his Vet repeat the x-rays for free, this time correctly. Most important I would make yourself clear, regardless of the outcome of the x-rays, which are not an issue in this situation because the dog was sold as is without any garantee's. It is sad but of his own doing because he is up a creek without a paddle.
I purchased a pup from solid German working lines with absolutely no genetic issues, he ended up having severe HD. Breeding is a gamble and unfortunately things happen even out of the best blood lines. My contract stated the pup was of working quality and was garanteed for HD. The breeder not only held up to her end of the contract, she went above and beyond to accomodate me in every way for my hardship, even giving me the pick of the next litter. This situation was not just hard on me, it was hard on her because this was a baby she planned before conception and cared for until I purchased him at 3 months of age and was equally devistated by the findings and outcome. My pup was diagnosed with HD at 6 months and had to be put to rest due to the severity of his HD. I miss him terribly however it was the best thing for HIM. He was already as big as my 15 month old GSD and would have been at least 95 lbs at full maturity. This pup would never have had any quality of life and would have been horribly misserable with his physical limitations and pain even with surgery. It was not right to put him through a life like that and allow him to continue to suffer for my bennifit. I appreciated my breeder dealing with me honestly and fairly. My 15 month old female GSD is from this breeder and I have a new 9 week old female GSD to replace Chip. She has very big paws to fill. I am very happy with the dogs I have purchased from her and the manner in which she handled this awful situation. It is my personal belief that adults should be honest and forth coming regarding any business transactions. There have been many discussions regarding dirty deals on this board and I can tell you it cheapens the person who is dirty. Eventually your true colors will show. The only thing we take with us when we leave this world is our integreity and if we don't use our integrity during dealings with people we are sure to make a name for ourselves. I just don't think it's a name anyone would want to own. ;o)
From what I understand in your post, he is a grown man, who made an agreement, having full knowledge of the condition(s) of this dog and that he purchased it "AS IS" without ANY garantees. So it sounds like he did not purchase a dog of breeding quality and he knew it, so he shouldn't be trying to breed her in the first place without being OFA'd and/or titled making her
by hellsbeast02 on 29 August 2008 - 18:08
I am not quite sure if there ever was a contract, but I do know the dog was sold "as is". I personally know the person that sold the dog (she is an honest person and wants to do the right thing but "AS IS" means just that "AS IS") and I know the breeder and let me tell you, this breeder is an outstaning person and honest breeder. All her dogs are guaranteed but she is not responsible for this dog. Her contract voided when whomever purchased her as a pup sold her, and now he wants compensation. He claims to be an experienced breeder and I don't buy that. He was trying to get a cheap breeding bitch and it back fired that is all. He could have insisted on xrays before he purchased the dog (no matter how much he paid), and he could have insisted on a full guarantee and paid extra for it. Noone can guarantee that a female will produce, we can't know that. If a dog is sold "as is" and you know that, you cannot come back as a buyer hollaring I want my money back or I want a replacement dog. Bottomline, he was dumb and now want's someone else to pay for his decision.
And personally I think the xrays are bad. Terrible positioning, this vet obviously doesn't know what he is doing. Yes the pictures are good quality and clear, but the xrays need to be redone. To me they look like they will OFA Fair.
Debbie

by Uber Land on 29 August 2008 - 18:08
thanks everyone. I worried and stressed about this all night. When I was first contacted, I was really upset and felt bad about the sitaution, but after he sent me the x-rays, I no longer feel bad about it. her hips look nothing like what he indicated.
thanks again.

by Brittany on 29 August 2008 - 20:08
I agree with what everyone here is saying about the positioning of the x-rays. I wouldn't leave the vets office until I get a good position of the hips.
If I was a vet I would be very embarrassed showing my clients these kind of x-rays.
No way would I send these off to OFA.
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