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Getting everything done take's time and I'm sure you will get your paperwork from her.

I know her and she is a VERY RESPECTFUL lady.

6months isn't that long I had a pup once from the Netherlands and it took longer.

Be patience

Regards Francis

Karen is a good friend, and an honest breeder, I am sure there is a technical problem that is taking so long for the paper work.

Hang in there.

Michele O

ALPENHOF German Shepherd Dogs

http://www.alpenhofgsd.ca

Don Corleone,

We haven't called at all.  She doesn't answer her phone and I also have no desire to harass her.  We send emails with updates on our pup (3-4 emails since May) as she requested and in those emails are the only time when we mention the registration.

snajper69,

I don't think we're going ballistic at all.  We have been very patient and we're going about this calmly.  The email is correct.

Larrydee,

Thanks for your suggestions.  We'll definitely keep them in mind.  That's the kind of info we were looking for - who to contact, etc.

Francis,

We thought so also.  We were very picky about where we got our pup from and it was the care she gave her pups and the sense of her integrity that made us choose her. We spent almost a full day with her at her home.  It's not the time period that's been bugging us, but rather the complete lack of contact.

It took about 3-months just to get the papers from the seller (in the mail).  THEN I had to start the AKC registration process which took another few months.  Six months when you're dealing with an import dogs litter is not unheard of.  

I don't know either of you so no sides taking here.  If she was at the Candaian Seiger she may not even know if there has been communication from AKC regarding registrations being completed.

Acheron,

Don't just forget it !!   as Don suggested.   bad Don.

I have had dealing's with traumhof also and she does seem respectable and honest, from up on high.

I don't know if the cop's a husband or brother but what's that got to do with anything Larry.

I'm sure she's not trying to put something over on you but she should be responding to your e-mail's, unless you have been rude or abusive.

Larrydee, that's Marion at Kirschental but they do not own Sherry and that's not who sold the pup, yes they are expensive is why I passed on one.    I wouldn't trouble Kerschental.

Acheron I think you could be patient and wait for a responce, I'm very sure she know's the situation as of now.

Brent.

Two Moons

                       There is really no logical  reason why Acheron has not got her AKC regestration by now.    I have dealt with this breeder and she comes across as very straight laced like if were going to do business it is going to be done my way or it's the highway not the least is a $500.00 non refundable deposit is required.     If she is going to make her customers toe the mark she should get off her high horse and give Acheron her AKC papers ASAP which she bought and paid for many moons ago.  You can even do the AKC paper work on-line now.

Acheron

I had a breeder a while back that was the same way.  He would answer any call that was a sale, but after you had your pup, he wouldn't answer.  I finally got sick of it and left a message that I was going to be at the same trial the next day.  I told him that he had 2 options.  Come with my papers or my money and I will give you the one-nut back.  Within a minute he returned my call and the next day I got my papers.

I understand the principle.  Sometimes these things take time.   Maybe instead of posting on here you should have sent her an e-mail stating that you are getting anxious and wanted an explanation.  State that if you were not to recieve a reply, your attempts will be exhausted and your options limited. State that good breeders have good reputations for a reason, tell her that you would hate to see hers tarnished and leave it at that.

If that didn't work, then maybe, and I mean maybe, you come on here and name the breeder. 

If that didn't work, I call Rocco and Tony to pay a personal visit.

Ok Everyone,  I received many calls today about this. (Guess what? I DO answer my phone, as long as I am not training a dog or with a client.)(Except for minor glitches...Those of you who read my show diary will know already that my little Charli chewed up my cell phone the night prior to my leaving for Canda!)

I suspect I know who this person is, since he is the only one who has asked twice about papers. I did give him the explanation the first time he asked -  although I gave him the condensed version as I wasn't aware he was this worried about it. He occasioanlly emails me photos of the dog. I don't alway respond to those emails. When he has had questions about her health or training, I always replied. His last email came while I was away in Canada. He mentioned photos again and said something innocuous like " I guess you haven't got papers yet b.c  we havent got them." This did not raise a red flag to me that I better call him immediately upon returning home. I got the email while on the road - modern technology - but did not stop to reply to all my email at that time. I figured most of them could wait til I got back and had a chance to sit to respond.

At any rate: since my integrity has been called into question, I will repeat the long explanation. This person has also put a nasty comment under my stud dog that implies his offspring are not registered. This is silly. This will not make red tape work faster. I realize there are unscurpulous breeders out there who never register dogs or withhold papers - I am not one of them. All my other litters are registered, papers in correct hands.

As it happens, the papers for this litter crossed and came while I was in Canada. I had been working hard to get them in my hands prior to leaving as I wanted to show a puppy form this same litter, who was already over 6 months old. As most of you know, you can show a 3-6 puppy without hard copy papers, as long as they are pending. After 6 months, you need them.

This was not a simple online litter registration as both parents were foreign registered, and then had to be AKC reg. and DNA done. THe female was all set. My stud dog's papers  had delays. I was missing a Beisheinigung (sorry bad spelling?)from Germany, then there was lost DNA (not by me), then DNA was sent a 2nd time, with the dog's SV reg. # b/c he  didn't ye t have an AKC number. As best I can understand (it took me a few phone calls to ge to the bottom of it. And I hadn't pursued it immediately b/c they tell you DNA can take 4-6 weeks to process.), the litter sat not processed b/c the sire's AKC number and DNA number  did not match the listed SV number form the reg. form, so nothing was completed. It was a simple error of someone matching the SV number and DNA to the new AKC registration number. I then tried to hustle it through, b/c I needed papers in hand for the show. But, by the time I got to someone about it, the papers had been mailed.

The AKC reps solution was to give me the litter numbers so, as the litter owner who the litter was already registered to,  I could then register the indvdl dog to myself on line from Canada & print a receipt. When I got back (and yes, it took me three days to get caught up on dogs/puppies leaving for homes/ litter etc.go through mail upon my return) last week, the papers were here.

(If I can figure out how to put a photo in a post, I can put in a photo of the AKC envelope with the post mark as proof!)

SO.  There is the story. I am not sure why it is even being called into question here.  The owner of this puppy did not intimate that he required an immediate reply and was upset. He made a passing comment in his recent email. The previous email I did reply about the delay. I do not keep in touch with every puppy owner constantly each month; especially during

Larry, Don,

Personally I don't care for the lady, but I don't think she's trying to screw you is all I was stating.

I'm having a similar problem with someone who won't return my call's or voice mails, a deputy sheriff. 

Some people think they are above everyone else.

You catch more flies with honey and try not to burn your bridge's.    Grandma was so wise.

Then if all else fail's call Rocco and Tony, Grandma knew them well..

Brent.

My puppy is 10 1/2 months old and I just got his AKC registration papers.

When I picked up Pharaoh, Julie, the breeder, told me that it might take a year.

Both parents were imported from Germany and this was the first American litter.

Apparently, many people are having trouble with the AKC DNA. She had to redo the DNA on the mother because they said there was not enough.

Julie kept me informed because I did email her with pictures and questions to "encourage" the process.  Now I will be going through the "individual registration" process with USCA. So, that means it's tatoo time for young Pharaoh and a pile of paper work for me. Ugh!

Let your breeder know that you are aware of all the headaches between SV dealys and AKC delays but that you have a right to  be kept in the loop. A lack of response implies guilt due to (pick one or more) (1) some of the delay is paper sitting on her desk, (2) she is "too busy" with litters and/or shipping puppies, (3) doing a "manana" number OR (4) there is a huge pile paper/mail and she can't find it just yet. None of those things have anything to do with the quality of puppy you received.

Good luck with your papers and do not be ashamed to keep yourself in the loop. Be a polite but squeky wheel.  Many dog and horse persons are AWFUL with paperwork but great with animals. You paid for a registered pup-you have a right to the papers.

Michele and Pharaoh