Helser BOI Update-SchH USA - Page 2

I like that idea, jda.

It seems to me that this one individual and their less than honest business practices, to put it mildly, has caused quite a negative stench for the USA organization here. And I think to some degree this whole thing is 'preaching to the choir' (its not like people here or with the USA organization need to be convinced of what sort of character Helser is-they already know and understand very well). No one is arguing about personal character (or lack thereof). But here's my question:

Has the USA keep record/watch to see if membership numbers is up/down/neutral since all this mess started? That might give an indication as to whether or not they would want to deal with it more seriously. If membership numbers overall isn't affected, then its not financially practical to pursue it. If membership numbers IS affected, then its time to consider. While I understand this is not the idea result to the individual, the club is a big organization that relies on $ to operate, period. Could the club be accused of being biased or something negative if they were to pursue him but no others, especially with what all's been written here concerning him on this messageboard? That's where maybe something along jda's idea would be beneficial.

And, I can't help but wonder, if so many in the USA organization is aware of all the dirty misdeeds of this one person, then why wouldn't he in particular be contacted and forewarned to remove all claimed association with the club via some sort of written notification? I would think the club would want such a person IDed with the them, especially after all this stuff going on. Doesn't the club know there are laws concerning things like FRAUD to protect them from getting sued from this?  

If you claim to be a member of a club that you are NOT a member of (regardless of whether or not you were a member in the past), that's fraud, is it not?
 Can a person claim to be the owner of McDonald's just because they feel like it, when in reality, they've got nothing to do with the company financially or ownership-wise? Of course not; the people who DO own McDonald's would get offended and begin considering legal reprocussions for such. Why doesn't the same type of logic apply to claiming club membership by an offensive person in respect to the integrity to the club the membership is claimed?

Bill, I can somewhat understand your frustration with your Helser experience, as you know. If Helser isn't a USA member, then what can they legally do-end his membership that doesn't exist, or throw him out of a club to which he doesn't belong? He's not under their jurisdiction, or else they could investigate him thru proper channels explained already, and maybe help give you a better sense of justice. Maybe thru all the info shared here, the USA will consider background checks on future position-holders within the club and thus cut down on such people from rising and taking advantage of others, and refuse him future membership if he ever wanted it based on the information they've already been given/told. Could the USA maybe start a file and have everyone who has a legitimate claim concerning this person write to them (give a little due diligence to it-have people put it to the attention of ---- ----- who would be handling this file), provide detailed account of their experience, provide any documentation supporting the claim, and have the stories put into a file for future use/investigation IF needed? We can only hope. But just like any organization or group-unfortunately, its gonna have its flaws and percentage of less-than-ethical people.