Breeding without hip certification - Page 2

 One of our bushdogs limped when he was almost a year old. The owner had not followed our advice on diet and was feeding only pellets recommended by the vet. The vet x-rayed his hips and told the woman that if he didn't operate on him within the week (in between two other hip-operations that he had that week) then he could just as well put the dog down. Luckily the owner then phoned us and we explained the diet to her again and asked for the x-rays. An experienced professor felt that the hips were 1-2 which is good enough for breeding according to K.U.S.A, the registration body in South Africa, and on the correct diet the puppy stopped limping. A  6 month old puppy, who we got back limping on his front leg from an owner, came right on the correct diet in a few weeks. We resold him and at a year took him back again because the new owners were told that his hips were shot. The vet had wanted to put him down. He was limping on a front and back leg. The owners had only fed the pellets recommended by the vet and ignored our instructions on food. When the dog was 2 years old we x-rayed his hips, shoulders and elbows and all were perfect. Another puppy was brought to us at about 9 months of age, lame on all fours, as a last effort before euthanasing him. We discovered that the pads on his feet were very thin and sensitive. He'd only walked on grass his whole life. After a few weeks of walking on rough ground his lameness vanished.  

We are very upset knowing that healthy young dogs are being euthanased or operated on probably on a daily basis. Please do not x-ray your dogs' hips unless it's a requirement for breeding, in which case go to a qualified radiologist and accept the reading with a pinch of salt. If your dog is lame and has not got an obvious injury (like a broken leg or ripped muscle) then up his nutrition (see our page on nutrition) to make him healthy again. If you have a modern shepherd with a bent spine then give him the best nutrition possible to extend his life as long as possible because there's nothing else you can do to change the fate of his pinched nerves

Don,

I'm still laughing ,  enough I just can't read any further than your post.

I personally gave my wife a physical before we had sex the first time.

And the second, third and so on....LOL

I miss the old day's.

Brent.

OK thanks.  How bout I sweeten this up a little.   Lets say this breeder had 10-15 Sch titled, kkl1 females they use for breeding.  Lets also say that the dam was injured in training so didn't  achieve a title,  is now a house pet,  has never had litter before and has never been x-rayed. 

No titles, no x-rays, no health checks, no breed.

Is this dam that was injured in training so didn't achieve a title, is now a house pet, has never had a litter before and has never been x-rayed a bitch you're considering breeding?

NO! she belongs to the kennel, or a friend of the kennel, and was bred by the new superstar from Germany.

you run the same risk buying a pup out of this female as you would a certified female.  you are never gaurantee'd good hips, whether the parents have OFA's/Pennhip/ "a"stamped ect. Puppies are a crap shoot, no matter who they are out of.

I would be more concerned with how relatives have produced, is there a high incidence of poor hips being produced by the dogs in the pedigree?  You can have a beautiful pedigree with everydog OFA good, but it means jack squat if all the OFA dogs are producing bad hips.

another question, I noticed the ZW option on each dogs page is gone on this site?  I used to look at them all the time, but find them missing now.  any reasons?

Jennifer

As far as I'm concerned she shouldn't have been bred. 

There are enough BYB's and that's pretty much what this breeding amounts to.  I don't care who the "stud" is.  Much, if not more is brought to the table by the mother line. 

I've heard the "she was injured" blah blah blah rhetoric before.