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by Blitzen on 09 July 2008 - 17:07
Why would that spoil you reputation as long as you put in writing that the puppy has been sterilized with a vasectomy or tubal ligation and is infertile? If you don't tell the buyers that (in writing) then yes, that would be a good way to get your reputation buggered up.

by Two Moons on 09 July 2008 - 18:07
SSDD.
Make wise choice's as far as who you sell to, breed less, withhold registration until terms are met.
A contract means nothing without enforcement, that means court's and lawyer's and expense's.
My favorite is breed less.

by july9000 on 09 July 2008 - 18:07
I applaud you for trying to have those dogs spay/neuteured. However we cannot follow every buyers and be 100% sure they will not breed.
We always sell puppies with spay/neutere obligation or non-breeding agreement. The non-breeding are for those who tink they wil maybe show the dog in competiton. The rest is all with the obligation to spay and send us a copy of the vet clinic so we can have confirmation that it is done. We recommend 1 year for a male and 7 months old for female.
I'm a oppose to spay and neutering babies 8 weeks old or before. They lack bone stucture and muscle. For large dogs they get really tall and slim. They never mature (in body mind and spirit!)
This is just crazy!! And Please don't tell me labradoodle is actually a Breed!! It is not..It is just a mix dog!

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 09 July 2008 - 18:07
well you're only absolute guarantee that pups will not be bred will be to spay/neuter and I think offering 40% plus taking care of the procedure is very fair. I myself if I were a "pet puppy buyer" would actually find that as an attractive offer. In my business (and it's not dog related) I deal with goverment contracts and even they are not full proof. If there's an attorney out there willing to take anyone's money and a client that has it to spend there is no contract that can not be challenged, possibly over written once they start digging into case laws, technicalities and such.
If you're adament on no breeding I'd say your spay/neuter idea is the way to go.
by srilankagsd on 10 July 2008 - 01:07
I am from a buddhist country, it is consider a sin, if i even mentioned that the pups are spayed/nuetered it will be impossible to sell. Also there is a strong notion that every bitch regardless of quality should be bred once before she is spayed and dogs be used as stud regardless of quality. This is a cultural so it is very tough.

by katjo74 on 10 July 2008 - 02:07
Neutering males too early can lead to a lack of them developing their full masculine traits, and for serious schutzhund competition people, this could prove to be an issue. I would seriously consider that before neutering male puppies at 6-8wks old. I have seen a very nicely bred sable working male (very nice BSP Dax Baumberg & Fado Karthago breeding) RUINED because the owners neutered him far too early on the advice of their vet. The male just didn't develop like needed for serious SchH. He ran around like a playful pup and didn't know a stranger from a friend-even at 2+yrs old. His owners considered him pathetic as a competition dog and gave him to a friend of mine, never considering that it was their fault the dog was the way he was.
I'm in agreement on spay/neutering, but I think the dog needs to mature before doing such, if you don't want to seriously alter the dog's potential personality. Or, at least consider that.
by Blitzen on 10 July 2008 - 03:07
I think for once I'm not going to say what I'm thinking.

by july9000 on 10 July 2008 - 04:07
COMMON BLITZEN IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING AS ALWAYS..

by TheDogTrainer on 10 July 2008 - 04:07
I think for once I'm not going to say what I'm thinking.
Yes, but you know you want to....I now have to clean coffee off my keyboard...thanks alot...

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 10 July 2008 - 05:07
Awe well hell I was really looking forward to what Blitzen had to say.
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