Another scammer in the dog world - Page 2

Agar-

You had a great anology, but the funny thing is I tracked the clients info down and contacted them to get info on the sale (as I had a gut wrenching feeling).  They told me they were told the dog was trained to a level 1 PPD. I about threw-up to hear that. At this point I told his client that the dog was a green dog and I will stand in court if they would like to take it that far. I will never do business with this guy again on any level.   

I'm with Agar ... and add that there is little point to this post ... the alleged scammer was not named so this clearly is not to serve as a "Caution" to others, but rather, a breeder's lament. 

If the breeder's sale agreement doesn't hold a first refusal clause then the dog is being sold for the buyer to do with as they please. As for the person that bought a green dog for 5K, caveat emptor I believe is the expression, or better yet "a fool and his money are easily parted" that's not to say I condone the broker/trainers behavior frankly i don't. For most 5K is a tidy sum, before one parts with such a sum, shouldn't they seek some assurance or at least satisfy themselves by seeing the dog work? .

The dog was worked in sleeve work in front of them.  Yes the people may have been ignorant, but to take advantage of their ignorance is not justified to me...

Second buyer should have had enough commen sense to call the previous owner or ask for references on the dog before he plopped down a big whopping 5 k for a green dog....

SOme people have more money than sense is all I say.

Hope this wasnt the TH puppy....thought she was yours to keep...or is this a pup you bred.?

Guess the next pup you train and put that much time and effort,,,which I know you and Zeus do....take a blood transfusion before you approve the sale...

YR-

I don't think I would feel quite as bad if the buyer was not an elderly lady looking for security. Once again peoples ignorance is no reason to take advantage of them..

she is gonna be in for a big surprise , ignorant as she was, and yes , that is taking advantage...An older person or persons are today being scammed by banks, lawyers, dog trainers, financial agencies. and our government  ..\So what else is new..

If the dog has a built in protection button in it,,,it may be ok in  a year from now...but I feel sorry for her if she gets in a situation to need something she didnt get...

wow   doesnt speak to well of      the above mentioned buyer,,,the first one....

as someone told me yesterday....most of these people are in dogs for the money...guess he hit the nail on the head...his hammer is still pounding sounds like...

2,000 for a nice green dog is actually dirt cheap....I have seen green dogs with some bite work and tested not trained on miminal obedience and some tracking for 5,000 and up for top sport potential...like you said puppies are if from good bloodlines around 1,200 to 2,000 so that was a bargain!  Marlene

Here is the pedigree to the dog I sold, so 2k was a great deal to those who know!!

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/510873.html

Deliberate misrepresentation of a product is at a minimum a fraudulent and deceptive business practice which can be and should be addressed both in the civil and criminal courts.  In addition in many states now to take financial advantage of an elderly person can constitute the crime of elder abuse which is usually addressed criminally. Finally there may be other avenues to address this issue thru state or local licensing boards or admininstrative agencies  - examples are it may be a violation that can be addressed by the state department of corporations or a state or regional agency on aging.

The crime is not that the broker made a quick profit on the dog - the crime is the deliberate misrepresentation of the dog's training and abilities especially when a "fragile" elder is depending on his professional judgement and experience.

We need to start calling these scammers on their actions and get them out of our breed.