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I completely agree that those who do evil things deserve to have the same done to them but please, for the sake of our breed, be careful who you paint with that brush.  Blaming an entire race for the deeds of few is exactly the thinking that brings us breed specific legislation.  

I can't get the website to come up.  However, everyone should remember that anything can be said on a website, and that does not make it true.

Zdog, I would love to see your collection of Bonzai Kittens.  I have perfected a way of making the tail of the kitten into an attractive corkscrew shape that become fixed over time.  Do you have a Bonzai Persian in your collection?  I find that they shed hair so much that asphixiation of the encapsulated animal sometimes occurs, so that I must order the special Bonzai Kitten Persian Encapsulation XP bottle for the second (and still living) Persian Bonzai kitten I have added to my collection.

Have you seen the reactions of your Bonzai Kittens to a barking dog?  It is quite amusing to allow one of my Schutzhund dogs to play a game of fetch when I roll an encapsulated Bonzai kitten about our large living room.  I have found that the sounds the Bonzai kitten makes are particularly great for building prey drive in a medium drive dog.  I feel that the resulting dizziness and adrenaline high of the Bonzai Kitten is also quite good for it's circulation.  The plastic kitten containment bottles are better for this kind of play, rather than the glass ones.  I have found it is nearly impossible to put an accidentally released Bonsai Kitten into a new container.

Veronica

ROFLMBO!  I like you Veronica.  You're as sick as I am and that's saying alot.

Jodagirl said:

The United States is the highest producer of animal hide/pelt products in the world and every animal is skinned after it has been first stunned, which is a humane process designed to destroy higher brain functions in an instant so the animal does not experience pain or fear, and then exsanguinated. In case you don't know, exsanguinated means bled out/bled to death. The animal is not touched until exsanguination is complete and the animal is dead. The point I'm making is that the statement made on that site about it being easier to skin a warm, live animal is a load of crap.

BULLSHIT!!!

Take off your rose colored glasses because this is how the animals are stunned prior to being skinned in the USA:

Prior to being killed, animals in fur factory farms are warehoused for months in rows of barren wire battery cages.  When animals are electrocuted through their anus or genitals, which is typical on fur farms, the electricity does not go through and stun the brain; the animals must remain awake and feel the full excruciating force of a massive heart attack. According to the American Veterinary Medical Association's guidelines for euthanasia, "Use of a nose-to-tail or nose-to-foot method alone may kill the animal by inducing cardiac fibrillation, but the animal may be conscious for a period of time before death. Therefore, these techniques are not acceptable."

So I suggest you stop throwing stones since you live in a glass house.  Also horses are slaughtered in the USA for human consumption too.

 P.S.  The problem with the Persian Bonsai Kitty are the hairballs.  I prefer to use Sphinx or Hairless breeds when making Bonsai Kitty, so much easier!  

"So I suggest you stop throwing stones since you live in a glass house.  Also horses are slaughtered in the USA for human consumption too."

Unfortunately the humaniacs have made slaughter of horses in the U.S. illegal.  Now they have to be hauled all the way to Canada or Mexico for slaughter where the techniques are far more brutal than they were in the U.S.

So the old and the sick will either go this route or end up dying in their pastures of starvation because people in the U.S. are finding it harder and harder to feed their animals.

Nice going HSUS.

Speak of the devil:  I just spotted this on the Grand Rapids, MI Craigslist.......

FOUND: Three horses/Ponies in my front yard this morning! STILL HERE (Ravenna)

Reply to: comm-7277
Date: 2008-06-21, 3:20PM EDT


I woke up at 4am to find 3 horses in my yard.

Theses horses are obviously starving and neglected.

Please call to identify and get your horses.

Or if you know anyone that can help me, please call 616-402-xxxxx

• Location: Ravenna
• it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

http://www.peta.org/feat/chineseFurFarms/index.asp

AkaVeronica wrote: I can't get the website to come up.  However, everyone should remember that anything can be said on a website, and that does not make it true.

Videos don't lie, Veronica. The above link works just fine. It's a PETA website, but if you prefer, the same link is posted in numerous other places, including Wikipedia, under their article on the fur trade, which presents views both for and against wearing fur. I am sure PETA picked the worst possible video they could find, but the fact this happens at all is just sickening.

I have a friend who owns a mink farm. i'm going to ask her about slaughter techniques, so I can get it from a reliable source, without the PETA or HSUS spin. I can tell you right now the techique will be a lot more humane than what's on that video clip!

Hey Sueincc, I was referring to the largest hide producing industry in the world, cow hide, aka leather. And the stunning method used for pre-slaughter is through a device called the captive bolt that fires either a penetrating spike or just a concussive shot into the brain, destroying higher brain functions instantly and rendering the animal unconscious. The brain itself may or may not be destroyed. The brain stem is left intact so that the heart is still pumping to ensure successful exsanguination. Some stunning methods do use electricity but it is applied to the brain and it is not a preferred method. Slaughter techniques thoughout the U.S. and Western Europe have been made as humane as possible over the last 100 years. Even the holding pens and chutes are designed to reduce stress and fear for the animals going to slaughter. The design is sweeping curves that prevent the animals from seeing anything but the hind quarters in front of them. When the animals reach the stunning chute a door closes behind them to prevent the others from seeing the stunned animal. The stunned unconscious animal is hoisted up by a hind leg and exsanguinated. Once the animal is dead, the hide is removed by down pullers and side pullers. It is only after death that the skinning process begins, yet there are no adverse effects to the quality of the hide and the end products produced from the hide. So why does the fur industry use methods that allow/prefer the animal to be alive when it is skinned?

Also, MI GSD is correct. Horse slaughter was bannd in the U.S. in 2007.

Actually no, it wasn't.  Each state has banned it, but not the federal government.  And MI GSD is right about another thing.  States banning it has resulted in far worse treatment of those horses now slaughtered in Mexico - nice going, HSUS, way to solve a problem! 

Oh, OK, so now instead of all animal pelts you want to only discuss cow hide.  Fine.  Yes, SOME slaughter houses are as you describe but it's not the law, and many cruelties continue unabated - even in the best of houses.  I've been to slaughter houses,  in fact I spent a big chunk of time in them when I was in college.  Look, I am a meat eater, I'm not trying to turn people into vegans, but you are way out of line when you make sweeping blanket negative statements about all Asian countries and cultures, most of which are untrure, as already pointed out. 

I'm saying if you want to stop animal cruelty, worry about and  clean up your own backyard instead of making judgements based on rumor and unsubstantiated bullshit about the rest of the world. 

 "Yet another reason for me to hate the Asians over there. I'm sorry if anyone is offended, but I am constantly getting affirmation for my hatred of that culture. For all it's beauty and history there are too many instances of horrible acts that are considered just fine and perfectly acceptable to those people. Google Bonsai Kitties, but don't expect to see cute picutres. Or the fact that some rich Japanese man bought and slaughtered 1984 Kentucky Derby winner Ferdinand because he wanted to eat a Kentucky Derby winner. Oh, and let's not forget the twisted practice of eating stillborn human babies either. People all over the world do horrible twisted things, but the number of incidents are much higher from the Asian countries.

Again, I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, this is just my PERSONAL opinion and there is NOTHING anyone can say that will ever change my mind. Just when I begin to think maybe I am being too harsh, something like this comes up and I am reminded as to why I harbor such deeply negative feelings for Asian countries and cultures. oh, and I do have friends who are of Asian descent, but they find these acts just as aborrent as I do and say that they know of even more horrible acts that are considered acceptable in Asian culture.

Now, for those about to attack me? Go right ahead and do your best/worst, but understand this, I straight up don't give a shit what anyone else thinks or says. My feelings on this are intensely powerful and cannot be swayed."

Ummm Ok Jodagirl....things are starting to make sense now after reading this. All I can really say is WOW!!  LOL, except it's not really funny.